Thread: Suspension technique front and rear sway bars question !!!

hey guys, i got a set of sway bars, front and rear by suspension technique.

i will be putting them on tomorrow.

should run just the rear or run both.

i remember reading some where that most guys just run rear sway bars.

ill be installing them tomorrow.

stratton.

When i had mine i ran both, But the fronts made the car understeer a little. Its up to you and your driving style i was comfortable with em all around.

my main goal is to keep the rear end from sliding out first.

i have over steer.

if anything i would want the front end to slide out first.

for example, when going into a hard turn i cant go in hard and break as im getting closer to the apex. if i do the rear end will jump out.

coming out of the corner i can mash the gas heavily and the car stick to the ground and is controllable.

but like i said going into corners under breakin the rear end swings out first.

so do you guys suggest just the rear or the front and the rear.

stratton.

The rear alone should even it up.I know how that feels its the car gets twitchy.But you had to really pushing it for it to do that what type of tires you use?

You should do your braking before the turn, so you can be on the power before the apex.

exactly. thanks for the advice.



you break as your entering the apex, the more speed you go into the turn the more speed you have to compe out and your over all spead through out the entire turn is increased.

looking for some responses from some autocross and track guys ! it would be greatly appreciated !!

stratton.

I've been around autocrossing and track events my whole life. But here is a guru for you to read and learn from.

Top 10 Autocross driving tips.... - Honda Civic Forum

im not trying to be insulting. but the way i read your post was to brake before the turn. of coarse im going to brake before the turn but shouldnt your breaks be applied hardest closest to the apex.

ill check out that thread, im by no means a a track, road coarse or an autocross guy, ive never been on either.

agian im in no way insulting your or brushing off your advice.

what do you suggest as far as my sway bar question goes ? just run the rear ??

thanks.

stratton.

I meant to do your braking before you turn in. Since you are already comfortable and know most, if not all of the limits of your car, you know where to start braking to get what you need done before a certain point. If you have already slowed down before you need to turn, that is less stress on your tires that are taking most of the weight transfer. There for you can turn in sooner and be on the gas a lot earlier, which will increase your exit speed greatly.

As far as your sway bars are concerned, that depends on what you want to do with the car. If you want to start autocrossing just put on the rear. That will make the rear easier to rotate around very tight and slow corners. But from what you have already described you don't want the rear as tail happy as it is. The rear sway bar will tighten the rear of the car a TON, but given the right inputs( a quick lift off the throttle or stab of the brakes sending the weight rushing forward), it can easily bring the a$$ out/around.

Now, if you are going to be driving the car in more open driving conditions (tracks or spirited driving on long windy roads) you don't want the rear to be as easy to rotate, due to the longer and wider corners. I believe there are a few road racer thread around here somewhere. Anyways, in that case you would want both sway bars. (My info on front sway bars probably isn't the best, I don't usually work with those on our cars. ) The front sway bar will keep both ends of the car planted, because it has less "give" that the OEM front sway bar. I'm not exactly sure why this works but it does. It's much easier to explain stuff like this in person and with a car to show examples with.

For a better explanation of how the front sway bar will work on the car, search for more from Andy Hollis or look around both forums. That would be better info than I can offer as far as front sway bars on our chassis' are concerned.