Thread: who wants coilovers for $279 shipped with 3yr warranty

If you need it spelled out, my point is if you want to go low and don't care how the car handles/rides, there are already cheapa$$ solutions out there.



Yeah, he might as well, if we're going to add these to the discussion as a legitimate performance option for SE-Rs. Then those you mentioned qualify too.

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Let me make something clear. My voice is on here to add to the dialogue. I'm not saying I want these banned from the forum.

I'm saying an incredulous price point speaks volumes and trumps all logic. So I feel the need to come in with some kind of common sense to combat the temptation of "something for nothing." People like Mike K aren't here anymore because they got tired of that discussion.

"Big Lots customers" always win, and the aftermarket landscape is worse for it.

If and when these get a Group Buy thread, I will respect the rules and I will stay out of it.

But in the meantime this is the extremely appropriate place for this type of discussion.

Oh i agree 100% i am just here to offer some input on the situation as well. I agree the aftermarket has taken a huge beating in recent years and and will continue to do so. Like you said there are always going to be "big lots shoppers" out there, and these type of people will continue to help el cheapo stay in business. Pretty much since i was 16 and alot of these companies started popping up on ebay and such the aftermarket has been going downhill. Back when i bought my first car and worked at an import performance shop alot of these companies werent around. The cheapest parts you could get your hands on then were number 1,maxspeed, and top speed/ pro 1 which actually had a few decent parts.

Times have changed. I remember when I bought my first Hotshot Header. I paid $550 for it. It was the only thing on the market at the time along with the Pacesetter header.

Now you can buy a damn header for $100 on ebay.

I agree with you all that the market has taken a beating because of the BS companies but, you can not knock the person making the purchases. With the way things are nowadays people want that bang for buck. People seem to not be to concerned with quality.

Hence why the top knotch quality builds stick out like a sore thumb. Add cheap parts to a cheap FWD Nissan community and it's a wrap.

Hotshot and Pacesetter are bad examples. High priced crap. The SSAC will out last anyone if those headers. You can buy a SSAC header which is a better quality product, made of better material, will not crack:and cist 3 to 4 times less.

I admit there are alot of crapy stuff out there but when you have had companies like Greddy, JUN, HKS, Tomei, Turbonetics ass raping people with products, there will be a back lash from consumers.

examples

Cranks JUN $4000, Tomei $2500, HKS $3500 ( Mazworx and Brian Crower $1250-$1750 )

Intercoolers HKS $800, Greddy $700, Turbonetics $800, JUN $1000 Tomei ( EBAY $150 )

I can go on, yes we have alot of crap but there is good cheap priced stuff out there also.

I mentioned Hotshot Dre because at the time it was the best quality off the shelf header available at the time. You know that's factual. Select Sales took me for a walk for that $550

I agree the name brand parts suppliers are insane with some of their prices.

it's all about personal preference and it's relative as well. for a lot of us, who entered the car scene, our baseline of suspension knowledge is stock. We don't know any better and don't know what's better until we drive another car, even more so a well tuned race car.

basically it's this. before i bought a new car, my only knowledge was on a 1988 stock suspensions. when i bought my agx/hyperco II combo and slapped them on, what a world of difference that was! then replaced bushing to polyurethane and a strut bar. i thought it couldn't get any better! So this was all I knew for a good 8 yrs (5 on stock, 3 on kyb).

then i finally bought a new 2010 Audi A4 S-line package... OMG! who knew a car could handle so well and have a stiff suspension on 19's without it being so painful. Now I know comparing a 2010 car to a early 90's is no comparison but my point is that people won't know what's better until they ride in it.

As for people with extensive race experience and suspension, they already know what's good and what's not. and it's obvious that cheaper doesn't always mean better. but for someone who doesn't know any better, can you blame them? even after they educate them on paper, they really can't tell until they ride in one.

veterans have the upper hand in these things and experience knows best. but it's just like as we're growing up, our parents always tell us what's better for us yet we don't follow. then years later when we gain real life experience we realize "omg, they were right." so i say let the youngens spend their money on a cheapo suspension and learn their lesson.

meanwhile, if a veteran wants to prove how poor the suspension is, then spend the money to get it tested and reviewed by the proper people, compare it to what you used to have, and let us know on the forums. but why waste money on something you know sucks, right?

otherwise, everything is just speculation, personal preference, and relative to experience.

i, for one, would love to upgrade my stock suspension with something cheap w/o throwing down $1000. but i know better and will stick it out until i get enough money for a true coilover setup, (yes, i know, why not csk's? personal preference).

I will indeed add these to the Suspension Thread if and when they become available.

However, I reserve the right as the author to slant my dialog and opinion any way I see fit. In order to guide folks, as best I can based on outrageous amounts of reSearch, to the correct suspension option(s) for them.

"Legitimate performance option"? Nope.

These coilovers would be "lumped together" with the K-sports, Megans, etc.... As appropriate for a beginner, who merely wants to cheaply change out his stock suspension on a tight budget, wants an aesthetics drop, and is not serious about performance nor ride quality. Which is a fair assessment.

Much like I state categorically that the Bits And Pieces ($$$) suspension option is for damned serious competitive road course racers. It is not recommended for some newbie, nor any sort of daily driving duties. Once again, a fair assessment.

The Progress coilovers are for a pretty serious guy, who really wants to track his vehicle, but does not want to "fiddle with" his suspension all the damn time, or perhaps he has no expertise with "setting up" the suspension himself. A fair assessment of the Progress choice.

If anybody does not like that, they can build their own Suspension Thread.

I had Progress and I did not plan to track it. will, if you count drag as a track, then I intended to.

who has actually sent a email to them???? i know it is not for everyone but for 279$ you cant beat it

i sent them an email...i want them!