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2010-01-05 23:16:18
#31
for the price it looks like it may be worth a try... i'll always have my AGX/hyperco II's to fall back on...
2010-01-05 23:33:49
#32
Originally Posted by Boostlee
Is it me, or are those rears inverted (looks like a LCA application in the photo for the Honda boys)??? Hmmmm, maybe another sign he actually DID put some though into these...........

And shock dynos and graphs............

Hmmmmmm.............Gots me thinking a bit!!

But even if they do turn out to be crappy, come on, under 700 for a set of coils shipped?? Hundreds cheaper than Megan/K2/D8 JDM/ or whatever other crap coilovers there are out there!!

Just some food for thought.............

They are ridiculously inexpensive, and may be well worth the price. Dirt cheap and....maybe-who-knows-yet....decently built.

Originally Posted by BenFenner
He said in the G20.net thread that the picture posted of the black coil-overs was from a prototype of one of their Honda designs (you were right Boostlee). Almost certainly the G20 versions will not be inverted like that I don't think.

You have a great point about the price. It's so low, even if they are "bad" they are still ridiculously cheap at this price and as long as they are not unsafe they would be a no-brainer for those considering cheap coil-overs to begin with.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by PWRDbyUNCLEbens
You get what you pay for with suspension. I would be more excited for a quality moderate priced suspension rather then some cheap setup. There are tons of cheap coilovers out there.

I'm not trying to knock this sale, but don't expect some super quality great performing coilover for that price. Even though I am still victim to good deals it almost never pays to be thrifty especially with something as important as suspension.

Agreed again.

You guys are making all the correct points.
Originally Posted by Boostlee
^^^^ You know, sometimes that is not always the case.

Its funny, when I had a honda, people always raved about D2/Ksports/etc which costs upwards of $1200-1500 at the time. Me being the inquisitive person I am (and always asking "why") I looked deeper into the hype. Yeahh, unfounded is all I have to say.

I got my Koni/GC setup for less than 700 brand new!!! And even "God" knows how much better the simple off the shelf Koni yellow/GC setup is than anything priced upwards of $2000 (both at that time and currently - my personal opinion, so please, do not chastise me on this, but its also the personal opinion of many other "intelligent" minded enthusiasts who use their coilovers for what they were meant for - to corner balance and achieve proper ride height.............)!!

In total I think my entire suspension and wheel setup which consisted of OTS valved brand new Koni yellows, GC (crx application) coils with 2.5-7-400 and 2.5-7-450 springs, GC extended tophats, Rota 15 inch wheels and almost brand new Azenis (215 mind you, but its a street car more than anything else), came out to less than a new set of D2s/Ksports at the time!! And that is one hell of a setup for both daily/STS at the time.

Suspension: 800 (included tophats)
Wheels/tires : 400

Total: $1200

And you had yourself a suspension that rivalved things costing 3-5 times as much (oh, and the facts and results from various race series and daily/HPDE/Auto x cars prove).

So, I do not fully agree with your statement!!!

Not trying to be an ass, but sometimes, you end up paying for the hype!!

:ok I am done with my rant:



You are preaching to the choir sir.

You did not cheap out, you actually put together a very good suspension. Nice work.

Almost exactly what you described is Steve Foltz's (suspension guru) favorite price/performance suspension set-up for B13's. Except that due to limited travel on our Nissan suspensions, we have to make your OTS (Off The Shelf) Koni's (for Honda's) into CSK's or Custom Shortened Koni's. Otherwise, everything is basically the same.

Originally Posted by PWRDbyUNCLEbens
I meant off the shelf "coilover" setup. If you are an educated enthusiast then you can put together a great setup for $1000 - $1500 like you have. I am referring to a coilover setup you would be that is ready out of the box. You are 100% correct however in your statement.

Bingo.

I laughed when I read his "recipe" for an excellent, relatively inexpensive, suspension set-up. Same damn thing, with shortened struts, works on our vehicles (different spring rates, whatever....).

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I'll add these to the Suspension Thread. However, I shall reserve any judgment until we have a lot more information, feedback, facts, specifications, etc..etc....
2010-01-05 23:36:12
#33
My statement is just based off of what I've seen on the internet with Ksport, D2 and BC coilover failures. I can't imagine these aren't going to be any higher quality than those companies because the price is nearly half the cost..
Just throwing it out there that I hope the best for whoever buys these. I am sure I am just as hopeful as everyone else that these are of decent quality.
2010-01-05 23:37:53
#34
Originally Posted by lowproki
He can't have proof because this is a new product and how can they fall apart?

They are not going to be made-out off plastic


Neither are BC coilovers and I've seen then fall apart on at least one person out there.
2010-01-05 23:44:31
#35
Shawn B, I think I was taken a little out of context.

I have read tons of stuff from Foltz (shoot, I drove his green B14 with the CSK, quaife, bent rear beam, etc!!).

I know what works (springs/shocks wise) for the B13 chassis (which is seemingly translates to most chassis in the same class as B13).

All I was saying is "I cannot stand this hype about 32 levels of adjustment, pretty anodized housing this, and JDM that." There are much better options than what is available for a much cheaper price. Simple. (which, yes, you may already know, but not everyone who is reading this already know this stuff).

My point is "expensive does not necessarily mean quality".

or

"A cheap entry level price does not mean its rubbish"

Both of which I am well aware people like Shawn B, PWRD as well as many others know. Just making the point to the ones who do not and end up making the not so great choices.

P.S.

If you cannot put together a Koni/Gc setup for a honda in less than 20 mins, you should not be working on anything mechanical

2010-01-06 00:03:35
#36
Originally Posted by Boostlee
Shawn B, I think I was taken a little out of context.

I have read tons of stuff from Foltz (shoot, I drove his green B14 with the CSK, quaife, bent rear beam, etc!!).

I know what works (springs/shocks wise) for the B13 chassis (which is seemingly translates to most chassis in the same class as B13).

All I was saying is "I cannot stand this hype about 32 levels of adjustment, pretty anodized housing this, and JDM that." There are much better options than what is available for a much cheaper price. Simple. (which, yes, you may already know, but not everyone who is reading this already know this stuff).

My point is "expensive does not necessarily mean quality".

or

"A cheap entry level price does not mean its rubbish"

Both of which I am well aware people like Shawn B, PWRD as well as many others know. Just making the point to the ones who do not and end up making the not so great choices.

P.S.

If you cannot put together a Koni/Gc setup for a honda in less than 20 mins, you should not be working on anything mechanical


Aha!

I did not know that you knew what you know.

Which is why I was amused that your "excellent budget" setup for a Honda was nearly identical to what is used on Nissans.

Further, I did not know that what works on one chassis will probably work (in a similar fashion) on another chassis in the same class but from another manufacturer. The thought never really occurred to me.

We're on the same page sir.
2010-01-06 00:21:15
#37
^^^^ Shawn B, your cool peeps lol

.

Your comments did give me a genuine chuckle!!



But back to the suspension. There are some minor details about this setup thats making me think that this might be the deal of the century (or bust).

As long as quality materials are used.................

P.s. Hey Shawn, its funny, as your suspension guide was one of the first things I read when dealing with my old B14!! Who-da thunk LOL!!
2010-01-06 00:29:23
#38
Based on this thread I have decided I am going to pass on these coilovers. I am not really worried about budget and would prefer to go with something tried and true. I have also driven SuperblackZ's car just to his house after we installed some Progress CO's at my work and was very impressed with the Progress setup. I still think that these are a hell of a deal for daily drivers and weekend warriors.
2010-01-06 18:52:20
#39
Benfender he responded on the G20.net to your Q's

Im going for the on my P10 and B13 i'll let you guys now when i install them
2010-01-09 03:26:37
#40
i decided to give 'em a shot, if they suck i'll sell 'em to some ricer who just wants to slam his whip.

You resident suspension guru's can feel free to assess and tweak at the convention.
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