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2009-06-01 18:36:44
#21
Shawn just plays dumb so he can play the "I didn't say it, he did" card. I'm on to him.
2009-06-01 19:01:08
#22
Originally Posted by squirlz
Shawn has a lot of respect from lots of people on this forum. He has taken the time to assemble mass amounts of knowledge for people like you and me to find out what works.

Im not here to take sides but when someone offers you information i would take it. If you agree with it or not, at least read and understand the info before just blasting back.

Thats all i have to say, just read a little before asking questions next time.

Thanks for the kind words, I am either repected or reviled, depends on your veiwpoint.

Originally Posted by BenFenner
I remember a story I heard once about a horse and a river. Something about BDSM and drinking? I dunno.. Seemed relevant at the time.

You can lead a horse in bondage to water but you cannot make him drink if he has a ball-gag in his mouth?

Ben, you're a freaky bastard, messing with farm animals.....weirdo.

Originally Posted by Vex630
Actually if i remember correctly Vadim... Shawn Bs suspension thread is a collection of information by Shawn gathered from other well respected members such as steve 98sr20ve who does the beam bending and other stuff for our cars. Ive talked to Steve countless of times prior to my getting suspension set up and he pointed me to what i ended up going with as the best possible set up for me.

Shawn Bs thread isnt information from Shawns head. I believe even Shawn states so in his thread that he does not know alot about suspension and that he is not really mechanically inclined. His thread is a very very well put together thread regarding suspension bits though. But alot of the shock spring info is more b13 biased.

100% correct. Information from my head would be worthless.

Originally Posted by The


Forward

There is a lot of misinformation floating around this forum concerning our suspensions. Perhaps this thread will help to dispel some of that erroneous information. I am no expert, I have very limited mechanical knowledge at best. Therefore, I only quote folks with considerable expertise concerning our suspensions. I provide plenty of links, facts, tech information, and expert, professional advice. Think of this as a collegiate level research paper on B13, B14 and B15 suspensions. Every source gets cited, as it should be.

I continuously keep this thread updated and current with any new offerings or information. Suggestions, corrections, or helping me with pertinent information or relevent photos is welcomed. "XXX" anything currently means I need more information or sources. I will incorporate things as rapidly as possible given my schedule. Typically new items show up every several months or so.

If you find something I am missing that is pertinent to this thread, then by all means PM me. Or you can post it yourself in this thread, and (assuming you are on track) I will incorporate it into the thread body itself.

I *clearly* indicate where I may be guessing on a few items.

I hope you find this enlightening.

Shawn B

I hope that clarifies my knowledge level. I am dead honest about it, I can write real well (a fact, not bragging), but I am no Suspension Guru.

I *may* know more "general suspension" information than anyone on these SR20 forums. Strange even to me, but true. The key word is "general". Not specific. Don't ask me to wrench, nor figure out the solution (although I have in a couple of select cases), interpret data, diagnose issues, build a CSK, engineer anything, or tell you how to do a home alignment.

The Suspension Thread is The Collective Knowledge of all the Suspension Guru Yoda Geniuses on our SR20 forum(s).

It is most certainly NOT my knowledge.

I am good at writing (A+'s in English since I was a child, been published), love suspension-stuff, and saw the need for a Suspension Reference Source on our vehicles. Every single newb, including myself, had the same questions, over and over and over, on the same suspension subjects. In countless redundant threads, suspension-savvy folks were having to repeat themselves a hundred times a month. The suspension-smart folks were frustrated with having to continuously go over (and over) the same subjects.

I cannot reasonably contribute to our forum(s) knowledge base due to my limited mechanical abilities and aptitudes. Therefore, in order to "do my part" for the forums, I decided to assemble the Suspension Knowledge of the experts into a "Suspension Research Paper" of sorts. A way for me to "give back" to the forum(s) for all of their (collective) help to me.

The Suspension Thread became more valuable, and more well read, than I ever dreamed when I undertook the project. It took on a life of it's own, and succeeded beyond my wildest expectations. I have spent several-hundred hours assembling and maintaining that thread for everyone's benefit. It has been worth every minute spent.

Originally Posted by Vadim
Yes I am well aware of that, but by gathering that information, and then properly organizing, you either start learning that stuff, or you already know what goes where.

Shawn might not be mechanically inclined, but doesn't mean he is not book smart

Dead accurate.

If you do a proper "Collegiate Level Research Paper" on any subject, you have to learn the subject, by osmosis if nothing else.

The Suspension Thread prints-out at eighty-one (81) pages long. That is longer than any paper I ever wrote for college. Longer than any article I have had published. It is damn near a thin, paperback, book. It is exactly half the length of "How To Build Performance Nissan Sport Compacts" by author Sarah Forst (161 pages long). And she covers every aspect of modifications, not just suspensions.

I know every line of The Suspension Thread. I know what is all included in there, even if I have to go back, re-read what I wrote or more likely quoted, and then provide the answer (which is not my answer per se, it is the answer of a...drumroll...suspension expert).

"Book Smart" is correct. Perhaps as suspension "book smart", in a very general way, as anybody on our forums (). Which is to me, quite extraordinary, when I arrived on these forum(s) I knew less-than-nothing about our suspensions.

I am a mere student of our suspensions. A glorified librarian assembling all the real expertise and knowledge into one handy, easily read, well organized Suspension Thread.

Originally Posted by BenFenner
Shawn just plays dumb so he can play the "I didn't say it, he did" card. I'm on to him.

That's my modus operandi, you got me figured. Sssssshhhhh, just don't tell anyone.
2009-06-01 19:08:14
#23
lunchbox honestly you need to calm down man. if you are seeking for help that is definately not the way to do so.
2009-06-02 00:47:38
#24
Originally Posted by LIUSPEED
lunchbox honestly you need to calm down man. if you are seeking for help that is definately not the way to do so.

Lunchbox, you sought suspension help in this thread.

While both of the first two respondents to this thread know more about wrenching than I do, and they attempted to answer your question, they did not address your more glaring and blatant problem. Perhaps both of those helpful gentlemen being naturally more tactful and charming than myself.

Your "clunk" could have been anything, and diagnosing problems by verbalized "sound" on a forum is not my forte. However, I could see you having major, major issues with those (horrific) Megan Racing springs. Therefore, I directly addressed in a cut and dried fashion your biggest problem, those springs, not some random "clunk" that could be anything.

You have fourteen (14) replies to your Members Rides thread. In it, you mention your (dismal choice of) springs and struts. This is the only response you got concerning your suspension:

Originally Posted by TheRealNightHog
I actually like it except for the suspension choice and the eyelids.

Very tactful, pleasant, and civilized response. TheRealNightHog knows his sh*t, and knows your suspension is in fact sh*t. However he did not want to jack or clutter up your Members Rides thread.

Nor did I say anything in your Members Rides thread. You were not inquiring about suspensions. I like the "Mad Max" theme by the way.

However, in this thread, you are in fact asking about your suspension. Including a "clunk" which could be anything attatched to your suspension with those criminally-negligent-engineered, peice-of-sh*t, dismal Megan Racing springs. You're gonna be hearing lots and lots of "clunks, rattles, groans, and squeeks" and having to replace the rest of your suspension prematurely. Including quickly blowing out those GR2 "OEM replacement" struts you just spent your money on. Which won't be under warranty, because you used (utterly crappy) lowering springs.

You "may have" gotten TheRealNightHogs hint in your Members Ride thread eventually. Given your disposition and reading comprehension displayed, I would wager that you would not. It would have went right over your blissfully ignorant head.

Someone else in one of your two (2) threads may or may not have tactfully, politely, sweetly, pointed out the blatant error of your spring/strut combination.

However, "someone else" did not. I did. Factually, dryly, to the point, no beating around the damn bush, no sugar-coating, no melba-toast-tactful "friendly hint."

Just the unvarnished truth and facts delivered rapid-fire and without pretense nor inference. Looking out for your best interests amigo.

You're welcome.

Shawn B
2009-06-02 02:19:21
#25
hahahahahaha. ROFL LMFAO! This thread ballooned into a total smash-fest ahhaha.

Everyone needs to take a chill pill ok? We are all on the same side here, and we all make mistakes. Let's put the childish squabling behind us and get along. There is a ton of misinterpretation that happens online. Offense is taken, not given away.

With that said, lets stay on topic and educate each other. Be constructive with your posts, and always Search to understand better. Arguing at this point about what springs he has is pointless. The Megan springs do not work for a b13. Period. Let's leave it at that.

But at least the clunking is fixed right???

Thanks for the entertaining read boys! That made my day lol.
2009-06-02 14:39:24
#26
Originally Posted by Coheed
hahahahahaha. ROFL LMFAO! This thread ballooned into a total smash-fest ahhaha.

Unintentional on my part.

"How to Win Friends And Influence People." Dale Carnegie. Great book. One of the few "self help" books I can read over and over. With no effect whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Coheed
Everyone needs to take a chill pill ok?

Way ahead of you sir. I take two (2) prescribed "chill pills" per day. Keeps me from killing people.

No, I am not joking.

Originally Posted by Coheed
We are all on the same side here, and we all make mistakes. Let's put the childish squabling behind us and get along. There is a ton of misinterpretation that happens online. Offense is taken, not given away.

Nissan Nation Unite!

I carry no grudges 99.9999% of the time. And this instance certainly does not fall into the 0.00001% where I am pissed for a few decades.

Hell, in some ways I appreciate and can empathize with Lunchboxes rather fiesty attitude. Even if his hackles got raised over a misinterpretation.

Originally Posted by Coheed
With that said, lets stay on topic and educate each other. Be constructive with your posts, and always Search to understand better. Arguing at this point about what springs he has is pointless. The Megan springs do not work for a b13. Period. Let's leave it at that.

He's got them. The Megan springs suck, in a criminally bad way.

Hopefully, Lunchbox removes them before they do any damage to any OEM suspension parts.

Originally Posted by Coheed
But at least the clunking is fixed right???

It was a simple missing gasket.

Originally Posted by Coheed
Thanks for the entertaining read boys! That made my day lol.

Always here to lend a hand, provide an answer, ask a question, or deliver some entertainment.
2009-06-02 17:19:04
#27
Originally Posted by Shawn
Thanks for the kind words, I am either respected or reviled, depends on your veiwpoint.


Demons to some...angels to others.
2009-06-02 22:15:51
#28
Originally Posted by lunchbox
newb...haha ok there old man, your a badass man...so i read your all mighty suspension thread...pretty much your one of those guys that say anything other than oem is junk...you have like one set of springs that YOU say is the best....everything else is junk...granted im a mechanic and i know OEM is the way to go but damn....im a child haha damn i didnt know being a 21 yr was a child...but the way your talking down to me like your ****ing jesus, talking to me like im a dumbass, and i was being a smart ass....you say i better watch my attitude like i give a ****...u have your opinion and i have mine, but just because u have been on this forum or more post than me doesnt make you THE ****ING MAN...

and some advise to you, "jesus" of suspension...to get respect you have to give respect...and talking down to me and pretty much calling me a dumbass for my decisions is disrespectful...


watch your ****ing mouth child. shawn in no way shape or form made ANY of those statements he quotes in his suspension thread. it took him YEARS AND YEARS to gather all of the correct information about our terrible suspension design and put it all into one place from all of the absolutly most respected people in out comunity like steve foltz and kojima.........but youd still say they were wrong if they layed shock dyno graphs out on a table for you. shawn, in fact, knows very little about suspension (at least when he started making that thread) and i know full well he will now be offended by my comment......he will back it up. you clearly know jack ****.........nothing.you have 1 inch of travel in the rear and i could out drive your car in a 4 door sentra E with OEM suspesion and i will put money on that.


you wernt worth the time it took me to type that.
2009-06-03 00:12:56
#29
Wow i clearly never said he was wrong.. i said that i didnt like the way his first post rubbed off on me sounded like he was offended that i was asking that question....and who **** u calling a child, yea i didnt research the springs i have megan **** all over my car, which is y im looking for more springs. and if u wanna race i will b happy to race u hell i will even give u a couple cars but i dont think it would be wise on ur part... 35r se-r with arc sidemount FTW.... i know plenty about cars, but i didnt research my springs... thats my problem but calling me a child and saying i have poor grammer, im sorry im just a trade school graduate, i didnt attend college haha. but dont sit herw and bash me because of how i type

thanks,
2009-06-03 00:25:37
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