Thread: next step in n/a

SR16VE are aprox. 11.7:1 in a DE. Id get pistons, realtime ECU and nice 4-2-1 manifold.

With a realtime ecu 16ve pistons, and a better header/exhaust what numbers could i expect. Ill post my dyno sheet up on here for you guys also.

I would guess and extra 10-15hp. Increase in compression will increase the power across the board, header might only help in a certain area. I would guess a good tune now would net you close to 5hp. Same mods on the VE and you could be in the 230s. I am not sure DEs are really worth upgrading for NA, gains are minimal compared to the potential of the VE. A stock VE would get you in the 170s, add some bolt ons, some cams and an tune and you are around 200.

Ecu and 3 inch.

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throwing $$ @ a de is kinda pointless, imho. a bare bones stock ve for~$700-$900 VS hc pistons on a de? the pistons will get you~ 5-10whp is all. that puts you @ ~155-160whp, maybe. can you even source the sr16 pistons?? or will it be cp or some other ~$500-$600 piston? to reach the turnkey 170-180whp of a VE you'll need bigger (ching ching) cams for the de as well. might as well go c3's right? and with those....aftermarket valve springs (more ching).
add it up yourself, man.

What is your budget? Figure that out and then go from there. If it were me and I was going to dump any money into a DE build, I would make sure I could transfer those parts over to the turbo build when ready. A NEMU R/T ECU or even an AEM standalone, cams and a 3" header back exhaust could all be swapped over to the turbo when ready.

ECU, exhaust and 2-3 hours on a dyno with a top notch tuner will have the DE feeling nice. If you are already at 150whp, I don't see 165 being a problem at all.

I don't see much of a point in going any farther with the car n/a without going ve. If you want more power, get a nitrous setup and run sr16 pistons if you need to rebuild I guess. If there isn't a real need to rebuild it and you plan on boosting it sooner than later, spend 5-600 on a wet nitrous setup and stop messing around. For 5-600 bucks you could have 10 hp or 100...... Your choice.

I wish a de could make 200 on a budget lol. Oh well. I have a zex kit and a turbo kit sitting around. I think itd be nice to have the bottom end done and ready for a ve head. The engine needs a rebuild anyways.

And thats a perfect idea b15. Ill make sure to do that. A tunable ecu and 3 inch exhaust would make gains n/a and turbo

Fuck it. The car is going turbo tomorrow. Picking up the tools to drill the return in the morning. Enough playing games lol. Rwd manifold and gt25 turbo. 8 psi.