Thread: Who would be interested in a 4-1 header?

I can't wait to see how this turns out. Glad Matt brought you to the forum

Well, thanks everyone....glad to hear some hopeful words here.

Yeah, it was my plan to head down to MD when I have a prototype ready. Might be an opportunity for me to knock the dust off the delsol. Well, unless I can't find E85 stations on the way so I can keep myself from runnin out of gas...then it'll be the beater comin...lol.

E85 in MD? I think there's some in Fredrick, take your time on this. I won't have $$ until after June! to many projects and wife wants a vacation!

There's a site that maps out E85 locations. I haven't driven the car long enough to really gauge what kind of mpg I'm getting, so I really don't know how many stations I need.

I tell you though, I remember the day when having a cell phone ring in a restaurant made everyone look at you in amazement, and I remember when I was really young and my grandfather bought me a CD player. All the kids said that CD's would cut someones head off cause they thought they were metal. The looks of seeing something different that has gone mainstream never gets old.

My point is, that pulling a 1993 DelSol up to an E85 "flex fuel" pump draws so much attention that I can't help but think it's funny. I filled up here recently and a guy next to me said, "excuse me...you do realize your car can't run on that gas right?" I explained to him why my car actually runs much damn better, and went on about octane, blah blah blah...but it's clear he (1) didn't believe me and (2) sat there to see if I could drive away. I started my car with that open dp/ball bearing turbo roar, and he had this look like "yep...it's blowin up"....hahahahaahahaha.

Did I mention I love E85....NO CARBON SMOKE AT ALL on a rich tune!!! My downpipe is CLEAN inside....like the color of the metal.

Interesting

lol, okay E85 on my NX next year!!

It is truly a gift....

A nice header in the $400-600 pricerange would be awesome! specially for us built VE guys. Keep me updated please

E85 has a different chemical makeup and unless your engine and fuel lines are designed to use it E85 will eat right threw them. it is also very corrosive on bare aluminum.

so unless you can find rubber hoses that are E85 safe as well as O-rings for the fuel rail and blah blah i would not recommend useing e85.




according to that E85 is electrically conductive, so those open terminals we allllllllllllllllllllll have on our fuel pumps could blow your car up in a tank full of E85.

Well, you can believe what you want to believe. Ethanol has been in our gasoline since the late 80's, and Congress required all cars manufactured to design the fuel system to tolerate ethanol. Guys have been running alchohol at the race track on normal gasoline fuel pumps for decades.

If you test a fuel pump in a bucket of water, it'll kill the fuel pump instantly...I've seen people do it. It's because water is electrically conductive. If E85 is the same, then why is my car still running, along with God knows how many other guys. There's probably over 2000 Honda's running E85 now, if not more. I've seen vids of various Mustangs, Vette's, motorcycles....all on stock fuel lines, O-rings, gaskets, etc running E85.

For one, the government, along with auto makers want people to buy flex fuel vehicles...they don't want people to start converting. They are going to discourage this practice, saying the vehicles are special and need this and that. On top of the fact, that lots of people in the car community think they know something about something, and post alot of b.s. When guys search google for info, alot of this crap gets thrown in the mix, and there is confusion.

I've read documentation from very trustworthy sites and representatives saying Ethanol requires a different O2 sensor, because the stoich ratio is 9.7:1 and gasolines is 14.7:1. They say special O2's that read that range are necessary. O2 sensors are lambda sensors, not ratio sensors though. I tuned my car on E85 just like it was gasoline...not a bit different. I tuned for an 11.6:1 ratio under wot. In lambda terms, that's .78 or so lambda. Rich for the street. You tune to lambda, not to a mathematically created ratio of lambda based on the fuel in the tank.

All I can say is, I'm running it and running it damn well. I have friends that are running it (tuned by me), and I know guys on the internet running it. Not ONE....repeat ONE incident of a failed fuel pump, failed line, failed anything in two years. I just can't help but believe that the myth is fairly busted.