Thread: think tank - vqman's N/A Big Cam SR23DE Build 92x86

vqman, every time i see your posts i feel like its beating a dead horse. lol.

seriously man, wake the fuck up. a bone stock ve with a decent header and n1's i gurantee will make you shit a brick.

some one go pick this guy up and flog the piss out of your healthy ve.

if you were local id go grab one of the shops ves and give you a ride.

stratton.

thanks for the good luck wishes, i can't imagine a kelford low-rpm lobe having the same lope at idle as a DE Brian Crower BC3 cam... Why would it? it would certainly take away the low end torque advantage offered by the smaller cam lobe... and that's what I want, regardless of it's ineffeciencies and the poorer head design of my proposed lowport head.




Thanks, but I am 95% sure that I'm going to be doing the DE first.. Maybe in a few years I'll do a VE build in another car.

the only reason we're beating a dead horse is because people can't get over the fact that I want to have a 92mm bore, big cam sr20D mother fucking E....

i don't care that the same amount of money would yield me about 500 hp if I went turbo, or 300 hp if I went VE.. I don't give a flying fuck.. that is too much power IMO for a FWD car anyway..

The kelford has way more lope than the BC3.

I know because I have run both cams

Not to mention more tq under 5k than most 2L's make HP.

interesting because everyone says a lopey idle means it's not tuned well.. and that makes sense as a big cammed DE with timing for top end power, of course it's going to lope more at idle...

how would a smaller cam lobe have a lopier idle if it were tuned right?

wait, if Robchaos made 181 on a 86x86 DE with , the 92x92 DE should yeld 248whp correct(per Andreas calculation if 15hp per .1 liter)?

originally, I wanted to do a custom VE cam that had an S4-like low lobe and a JWT C3-like high rpm lobe....

what is the kelford cam's low lobe stats? how much lift/duration?

i won't be going with the 92 mm crank though.. I will be keeping a stock RR 4cw crank..

The low lobe on a 184c is not that small.

There are threads discussing all of this.

Duration @ 0.1 mm Valve Lift
Inlet Exhaust
314 313

Duration @ 1.0 mm Valve Lift
Inlet Exhaust
266 258

Valve Lift @ 1.55 Rocker Ratio
Inlet Exhaus
12.50mm 11.50mm

Centerline @ Full Lift
Inlet Exhaust
104 106



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