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2009-05-21 00:59:24
#31
Originally Posted by cortrim1
ceramic coating sucks. it comes off after about a year of use and then you header is still going to rust. I got tired of removing the rust and recoating with high temp paint and even though the coating looked good it does not work as well as wrap. I hated to wrap my fuji header but it killed my alternator with radiated heat and caused issues with my a/c.


I just took my manifold off after 2 years of daily abuse. No rust at all. No flaking either. Just cleaned her up and sold her.
2009-05-21 02:43:29
#32
Originally Posted by Coheed
I just took my manifold off after 2 years of daily abuse. No rust at all. No flaking either. Just cleaned her up and sold her.

Well I have owed multiple hotshot headers and all had the coating come off in a year or less.
2009-05-21 03:01:41
#33
sooo.... a good header wrap brand?... or just go with ebay stuff?
2009-05-21 03:05:26
#34
I got the Summit brand wrap but i have not put it on yet, but usually they make good stuff.
2009-05-21 03:05:48
#35
Fuji's are stainless steel right?
2009-05-21 03:39:26
#36
Originally Posted by SUNNYboi
Fuji's are stainless steel right?


yes fuji's are stainless. no issues wraping them.
2009-05-21 07:59:13
#37
Originally Posted by Topdog781
Anyone that has had header wrap problems that were serious probably did not follow the rule of 1/2 inch over lap per section. They most likely wraped the heck of the header so all the heat stays trapped into the header which will cause damage eventually.


Please elaborate.
2009-05-21 15:33:10
#38
Originally Posted by BenFenner
The debate was really whether or not ceramic coating the header was worth it if you're going to go ahead and wrap it anyway. Basically if you have a mild steel header you want to do what ever you can to protect it while also trying to keep the heat inside. This means the best thing to do would be to ceramic coat the header to protect it from rusting, then if you're really feeling fancy wrap the header with header wrap to really keep the heat in. If you can't afford to ceramic coat a mild steel header, the next best thing to do would be to paint it with high temp paint to try and protect it from rusting, and then proceed to wrap it.

If you have a stainless steel header the options change. Basically it's going to resist rusting from the get-go because it is stainless steel. This means ceramic coating it for rust protection is sort of silly, but the heat insulation of the ceramic coating is a good idea. Stainless steel however, is a much better insulator than mild steel, 2x or 3x as good. So already you're way ahead of the game. The ceramic coating on it's own is usually plenty good. If you're cheap, you can just wrap the header and not worry about anything. If you're really anal but cheap, you could paint the header with high temp paint and then wrap it. Ceramic coating and wrapping a stainless steel header on an N/A car is probably okay, but doing that for a turbo manifold would probably keep the manifold too hot, and then you'd run into other problems.


So, are you getting a stainless steel header, or a mild steel header?


Thanks for the synopsis! I already have the ebay special SSAC headers on. I'm guessing it's probably a mild steel. Can anyone confirm that? I guess I need to order/buy some heat wrap and hi temp paint. Does Autozone carry the hi temp paint? I know they have some header wrap I can pick up.
2009-05-21 15:43:37
#39
Originally Posted by Dabrits
I'm guessing it's probably a mild steel.
I was under the impression all the Chinese headers were stainless. I'd wait for someone else to chime in. I'm not certain.

Originally Posted by Dabrits
Does Autozone carry the hi temp paint?
Yes. You're probably going to want to buy the 2,000°F stuff, it's called VHT or something.
2009-05-21 16:07:35
#40
Originally Posted by Dabrits
Thanks for the synopsis! I already have the ebay special SSAC headers on. I'm guessing it's probably a mild steel. Can anyone confirm that? I guess I need to order/buy some heat wrap and hi temp paint. Does Autozone carry the hi temp paint? I know they have some header wrap I can pick up.


the ssac header I had was supposed to be stainless but it rusted any way. It was on my ve car when I bought it.
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