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marksr20 I will show the sr world that you can still have fun with the DE and make a lot of power.
Oh I think most all of us know that. I think most of us who have VE's now started with DE's somewhere along the line. Not everyone but surely a large percentage. The fastest car I had before the current was my 91 SE-R with original DE and bolt ons, dyno'd a mere 152HP @ wheels and it destroyed every Civic/Integra/whatever back in 1999-2001. The thing is though, it would never do that today as even stock Honda Accord V6's run like mid 14's right out of the dealership. The competition is much stiffer now so we're sort of lucky the VE exists because at this point it would be go deep into the pockets for those who want to stay away from boost with the DE or boost it and deal with a whole new set of variables. If you wanted to keep up with the competition that is. I knew basic bolt-on DE's were in trouble in 2003 when I raced (and lost) to my friend in a brand new Acura RSX Type-S that was STOCK and I had I/H/E/S4 cams/Pulleys etc in my 98 SE..