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Thread: Possible to correct B14's rear toe without beam bending?

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2010-08-04 13:28:00
#11
Originally Posted by Servin
Back in the day Ive heard people cutting the beam behind the hub and adding in "shims" too get the effect of bending the beam. But I think its cost prohibitive, really any frame shop should be able to do it but most likely wont in case of a mess up.


The biggest problem is that there is a torsion bar inside the beam. Both must be bent at the same time, so a fixture and/or shims are needed. Also, without shims, there is a danger of crushing or kinking the beam during bending. The beam must be bent while on the car to obtain a good measurement of toe. The beam must be overbent quite a bit so it will spring back to zero toe. The amount of overbend puts so much temporary toe out on the wheels that standard alignment equipment would not be able to read it. I had an alignment shop willing to do it if I made the fixtures. Then, six of us got together and flew Steve Folz to us for a day. Much less hassle to let a man with experience do it. If you end up with toe out, it is a real pain to try to bend it back.
2010-08-04 13:56:39
#12
yea, thats what i got to thinking with the shims idea..

cliffsnotes:?
shims dont work because the whole rear beam is one welded piece
bending the beam is pretty much the only way?

am i right on those? lol
2010-08-04 17:28:02
#13
man that sucks i want to get mine bent but alas no way i'd get enough ppl in hawaii interested to get him to fly down here T.T
2010-08-05 00:34:37
#14
might be a dumb question but does the beam bend back over time, i got 2 b14's now i might start looking if there is another car i can swap the rears out on to make it easier
2010-08-05 12:20:06
#15
Originally Posted by justin2386
yea, thats what i got to thinking with the shims idea..

cliffsnotes:?
shims dont work because the whole rear beam is one welded piece Correct
bending the beam is pretty much the only way? Correct

am i right on those? lol


Originally Posted by seafunk
might be a dumb question but does the beam bend back over time, i got 2 b14's now i might start looking if there is another car i can swap the rears out on to make it easier


Beams dont bend back once you set them unless you hit something to make them bend.
2010-08-06 01:31:46
#16
Honestly you live close enough to drive. If you want it done that badly pony up and do it. People have driven from several states away for a Foltz bend.....
2010-08-06 02:02:43
#17
No doubt. I need to do this. I'm only about 300 miles away from him. I assume he still lives in Pueblo, CO right?
2010-08-06 02:51:55
#18
Just spoke to Kojima about this, he says it really is not as difficult as everyone on here says. Just need a good alignment guy to help ya out. Typical.

I trust the Godfather to not point me in a wrong direction.
2010-08-06 03:51:39
#19
What's not difficult? Bending the rear beam or getting the B14 to rotate just by adding a rear swaybar? As far as I know, every car that Kojima has owned with a rear beam has been professionally bent to zero toe.
2010-08-06 04:21:50
#20
Originally Posted by Tommy
What's not difficult? Bending the rear beam or getting the B14 to rotate just by adding a rear swaybar?


Bending the rear beam itself.

Originally Posted by Tommy
As far as I know, every car that Kojima has owned with a rear beam has been professionally bent to zero toe.


True. I just spoke to him about the process. He claimed it was not as difficult as the forums portray it to be. As long as you find a good alignment guy, aka "the Professional".
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