Thread: Kelford cams installation and cam gear setup

Hey guys, I got myself a set of 184-c cams and I'm planning to install them soon and just want to make sure I'm on the right track.

Here is the list of part I'll be installing/using,

- Kelford 184-c cams
- Supertech valve springs and titanium retainers
- Cam gears
- Hotcams shim set
- depth guage to measure shim height
- Fillers to measure clearance

So first question I have is cam gears, is there any agreement on where to put them? I think a read @niZmo saying -7 on intake and + 6 on exhaust.

Any inputs appreciated.

My setup
Stock internals SR20VE
Hotshot replica header, 2.5 downpipe (soon to be replaced by a 20v)
3 inch exhaust
Q45 TB, 3.5 inch intake
P60 MAF
Nemu RT

This!!

Can't agree more. Start at 0/0. Start with the intake cam and advance it 1 degree at a time

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Thanks guys, I'll leave it at 0,0 and then fiddle with it when I take it to the dyno.

What about tuning, are you guys aware of what kind of timming and AFR these cams like?

Look's that you'll be the first one (that I know of) to have those cams on a stock compression VE. Taking a wild guess here but since high CR likes richer mixtures. I say lean them... However, let’s just acknowledge that you are prone to spend a lot of time finding the sweet spot for your particular setup on a dyno. On the other hand you’ll gain a ton of knowledge on the way there... Keep up the good work.

I know that some people have used them on stock compression engines. I do not remember the results or the cam gear settings. I would say get it on the dyno and adjust from there. It may take some time, but every engine is different. I would suggest swapping out the header at the same time as the hotshot replica will not let those cams breathe enough and you will have to re-dyno after the header install and start from scratch.

I may have to wait until my 20v header arrives then, which should come in august :/

13.2:1 on premium unleaded fuel!!

Tested on a stock compression VE in 2009. There are old threads on all of this. Results will vary based on supporting bolt ons.

Degreeing cams are essential to getting the most out of those cams for performance. Using someone's previous settings may or may not always be optimal. It is best and wise to degree them in your own specific engine and setup. Although the centerlines for all 184-C cams are the same, its still wise to degree them in properly. We have installed multiple Kelford cams in alot of engines here, the setup may be the same next to each other but the cam gear settings have been different.

Here is a good write up to follow by:

How to Degree Camshafts - Tech - Honda Tuning Magazine