Welcome to the SR20 Community Forum - The Dash.
Register
SR20 forum logo

Thread: Installing an oil catch can on ve

+ Reply To Thread
Posts: 21-30 of 45
2012-03-05 07:39:35
#21
Originally Posted by sugarwaterpurpl
Just lost on this whole thread.
Like they said, the ve catch can is internal. And was lost on the whole intake part


This should help clear up how the ve is setup from the factory.
2012-03-05 07:53:49
#22
ahh i see, simple pic. great
2012-03-05 14:24:43
#23
Originally Posted by sandman817
Unless flowing oil is passing through that line, but mine had ripped completely off the VC last week and didn't notice it untill i was checking for a vacuum leak with the engine running and nothing but air was coming out of the line.


Sorry man I thought you had a DE (late at night and didn't see the VVL badge/section)

If you go to install the catch can install it between the VC and intake piping. Also look into installing one between PCV valve and intake manifold.
2012-03-05 15:47:59
#24
Maybe I can be of some help.

Originally Posted by sandman817
So i've been reading around about people setting up their oil catch can by going off the pcv and then to the intake manifold.
If that's what you've been reading, then you're being confused. Or you're being confusing to us...

The small PCV hose does go from the valve cover to the intake manifold. That is the way it is done. Not many people put a catch can between there. A few do, but I doubt you found those threads?

I think what you're talking about is the WOT section of the PCV system with the larger diameter tubes. NO ONE runs those to the intake manifold. That is a bad idea. If that's what you've been reading, then you've been finding some cray shit. Do not do that!


Originally Posted by sandman817
My question is, instead of doing that, could you run a line from the fitting off the block, and then from the CC to the fitting on the VC that is facing the radiator?
This, along with your picture, makes it sound to me like you're trying to retro-fit a catch can like the DE engines have. This is basically pointless, because you already have a catch can setup in your valve cover. The old DE catch can has been made redundant. If, for some crazy reason you just insist on having a catch can in your engine bay then sure you can go ahead and do as you've planned. It will not be worth the expense and clutter if you ask me, but it is up to you. You certainly won't be making things worse. But I'm not sure you'll be making things too much better either. The stock VE already have plenty of oil baffling in both the small PCV hose section and the larger WOT hose sections. I don't see the need to add any catch-cans on a stock or fully modified N/A Ve setup. I just don't.
Last edited by BenFenner on 2012-03-05 at 15-51-59.
2012-03-05 15:48:35
#25
Originally Posted by Vadim
Sorry man I thought you had a DE (late at night and didn't see the VVL badge/section)

If you go to install the catch can install it between the VC and intake piping. Also look into installing one between PCV valve and intake manifold.


Could you explain to me how this would be any different compared to running from the block to the CC then from the CC to the VC
2012-03-05 15:59:28
#26
Originally Posted by sandman817
Could you explain to me how this would be any different compared to running from the block to the CC then from the CC to the VC
Because if you filter the oil from the air BEFORE the valve cover, it will just re-mix with vaporized oil in the VC again and you've accomplished not much. If you do it after the valve cover, then you might be accomplishing something.
2012-03-05 16:12:01
#27
All i would be doing is seperating the oil/gas vapors from the air, catch it in the can, and allow the air to go up to the valve cover. The oil seperator in the valve cover serves the same purpose as a catch can but instead of seperating the unburnt fuel vapors from the oil it recirculates it back into the intake.
2012-03-05 16:24:32
#28
No, that's not how the oil separators in the valve cover work. They separate the oil and fuel vapors from the air and allow it to drain back into the head (and then on to the block) and in theory only fresh air leaves the valve cover headed for the intake.
Last edited by BenFenner on 2012-03-05 at 20-45-48.
2012-03-05 20:39:45
#29
Catch cans are seperators, but not all seperators are catch cans.... Deep thoughts that make you go hmm.
2012-03-06 17:40:01
#30
so then it doesn't matter if i run it before the valve cover or after the valve cover..
+ Reply To Thread
  • [Type to search users.]
  • Quick Reply
    Thread Information
    There are currently ? users browsing this thread. (? members & ? guests)
    StubUserName

    Back to top