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Thread: *Help* Low power SR20VE with N1's

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2010-08-23 22:42:27
#31
my car has both cams switching on at the same point (N1 cams) and there is no dip just smooth power curve.
2010-08-23 23:16:34
#32
Put your cams back to 0,0 then re-dyno.
2010-08-24 00:21:24
#33
Okay so I guess there can be a smooth graph. I was judging by how when our cams activate, it made a jump in the graph. To smoothen it out we changed the activation points. Anyways, how are you testing if both cams are activating?
2010-08-24 04:17:02
#34
Originally Posted by 5speed
Lose the Magnecore wires, they are the worse wires out there. You are probably getting a lot misfire. The Magnecore's have the worst boot design. Replace them with the factory wires and get new cap,rotor, and spark plugs, then head back to the dyno.

A weak ignition system is where you can easily lose horse power. It's the first thing I check for on a low performing engine.


I can test this, I still have my old lead's and a spare set.

Okay this may sound weird but...are you SURE thats YOUR dyno sheet?? First off it shows that your power band is REALLY smooth, too smooth for a VE with the cams activating at the same time. It also shows power loss at a very low RPM. N1s being a top end cam you should getting power up until ~7k RPMS. Also, if in fact your cams ARE activating at 5k, there is no way that could be your dyno sheet. There would be a spike/loss in your power. And to top it off that torque is pretty unheard of for that setup. I don't think we should diagnose any further until it is confirmed that is in fact your sheet.

you get what I'm saying..?


This, I am 100% sure about, We did 3 Runs starting off at 164 HP I think.

yea it comes out to be about 128.3 ft lbs tq if you convert from nm..

what type of dyno was the run takin on, was that your only run or just your best run? what was the smoothing? correction factor?


I did 3 run's this was the best, As for the smoothing this I dont Know, I will have to ask them or maybe Derm or Docter G will assist as they both should know.

Put your cams back to 0,0 then re-dyno.


Ok, I will try out 0,-2 first then 0,0 then we can take it from there, Just want to get new plugs.Cap and rotor first.

Anyways, how are you testing if both cams are activating?


Im 100% sure both are activating, If I stage them I can hear and feel them kick in.
2010-08-24 14:12:07
#35
add timing between 6500-7000
You should change to a N60 maf the resolution is better. You are only using a 1/4 of the N62 maf. You can fine tune better. Play with cams on the dyno then when you have the + and - numbers right then finish the tune. Just be aware on the intake cam piston to valve clearance.
2010-08-24 16:00:46
#36
Run those cams straight up. Car should be make a lot more power with your mods. We have similar mods except I have a 3'' exhaust. On the few base pulls we did with a calum tune the car laid down more than that.
2010-08-28 01:34:29
#37
man sumthins wrong,, im thinkin of geting n1s and now i dont want them,, i make 175 atw on stock cams b4 spray, i have an ebay header, custom 2.5'' exhaust 8lb fly wheel, sr16ve trans, home made c.a.i and an safcII tune on 93 octane, with the stock b13 maf, i dont understand y u guys dont make more power, i would atleast expect 190 to 195 with those cams
2010-08-30 06:08:04
#38
Hi Guys

I really want to change my Exhaust and take the car back to the dyno, I was told my exhaust was mandrel bent but at the rear it's crush bent down pretty bad to 60mm

Thanks for all the help. The car managed a 15.1 Second Pass with a 2.6 Sec 60Ft time at 95MPH on an Unprepered track this weekend.

Will let you guys know once I get new numbers.
2010-08-30 13:53:02
#39
I dont see 60mm exhaust as a problem. I saw a lot of Hondas with 220-260hp (not whp) with 60mm exhaust. Thats not a restriction.
2010-08-30 21:11:03
#40
Originally Posted by cory
Also 170 is hardly unheard of with out cams.. come on man. 180 are easily reashed on 2.0 cams by many


I think he meant by "without cams" to make 170WHP on the low lobes only without ever switching to the high lobes
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