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2009-06-10 16:21:13
#51
Initial graph - same setup but with itbs and a fair tune, but too rich.
new graph - same setup but with oem IM and a better tune.

Looking at the graph the low cam is still good at 5krpm so I think moving the switch point to 5500rpm may get rid of that dip also.
2009-06-10 17:36:23
#52
Switch the cams at 5700 RPMs, that look like the sweet spot

2009-06-10 18:19:09
#53
will give it a shot.

Here's short clip I took at the dyno. run starts around 0:06 or so. Only revved to about 6k-6.5k on this run.

2009-06-10 19:12:59
#54
I wouldn't give up on the itb just yet. I believe Doctor G did some adjustments to the cam timing and that helps a lot.

For the FS4, the activation points should be 5,800 rpm intake, 6,400 for the exhaust.
2009-06-10 19:26:01
#55
Originally Posted by 5speed
I wouldn't give up on the itb just yet. .

I haven't. I also think they just need better tuning.

Originally Posted by 5speed

I believe Doctor G did some adjustments to the cam timing and that helps a lot..

Nope no cam timing changes were done. I have a few other mods ready to be done, but I deliberatly kept everything constant between runs to see the effect of the manifolds. Didn't realise the ITB's had such a bad tune until today though.


Originally Posted by 5speed

For the FS4, the activation points should be 5,800 rpm intake, 6,400 for the exhaust.


I have a basic management system and can only activate the cams at the same time, but will be trying a higher switchpoint soon.

Drove the car home 40miles all highway and I must say the torque now is pretty amazing.
2009-06-10 20:28:08
#56
Originally Posted by Andreas
So the stock IM made the 234 WHP numbers.

FS4 cams
Valve springs and retainers
Ported Head
SR16VE Pistons making ( 13.5 to 1 compression )
4 into 1 header
370cc injs
Knife edged crank
Pulleys


I am a big fan of intake manifolds and feel a IM with a large 80-100 MM TB will outperform the ITBs

Great job.

from what i have seen with ve engines and itb's i wouldn't agree with this statement
2009-06-10 22:54:46
#57
Check out this site

JENVEY Fuel Injection Questions & Answers

I don't think an 80-100mm TB would be worth it
I think It would be more about the manifold design than the TB size

About halfway down they talk about reducing TB size on 270 hp formula 3 engines (2L inline fours) to 44mm before any restriction was shown.
ITB's or IM either way its going to come down to a good design.
234whp on a stock manifold is certainly encouraging though
2009-06-11 00:27:15
#58
Originally Posted by Doctor
I haven't. I also think they just need better tuning.


Nope no cam timing changes were done. I have a few other mods ready to be done, but I deliberatly kept everything constant between runs to see the effect of the manifolds. Didn't realise the ITB's had such a bad tune until today though.


I stand corrected, glad things are looking up for you.
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