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Thread: Aem stand alone or Nismotronic for my Sr20ve build

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2014-03-19 15:16:42
#41
On the main maps (or all?) can RPM be displayed on the x-axis, as God intended?
2014-03-19 22:46:10
#42
Originally Posted by JKTUNING
Originally Posted by BlueRB240
Can you make adjustments on the fly now with nismotronic? or do you still have to save it 1st before the changes take effect?


You have never had to save changes first for the changes to take affect .. you have always been able to tune in real time!

Maybe you are mistaking changing a parameter like the rev limit, and not clicking away from that item or hitting TAB/ENTER for the item to be marked as changed so it would upload.

Even in AEM when you change a parameter like that it will only update after you physically hit the enter key, that is because you don't want it to make any updates while you are typing the number or that would lead to all kinds of issues.

Plus .. the update changes and calibration loading is a TON faster than a V1 AEM box and very similar to the USB V2 boxes.


I used the nismotronic once before when it 1st came out and could have sworn changes weren't been made unless I saved the map when in the program. Then again might be my memory going bad on me.
2014-03-20 16:11:11
#43
Originally Posted by BenFenner
On the main maps (or all?) can RPM be displayed on the x-axis, as God intended?


No sir .. RPM is only on the Y-axis but can be inverted to suite your style.

I kept it this way because that is how most "Honda" tuners are use to .. all of the OBD1 ROM editors are laid out with the RPM on the Y-Axis so I tried to keep it familiar.
2014-03-20 16:15:58
#44
It should be feasible to make the tuning software have the option of changing it to suit the tuner's needs. Just an idea for the white board.
2014-03-20 16:18:20
#45
Originally Posted by BlueRB240
I used the nismotronic once before when it 1st came out and could have sworn changes weren't been made unless I saved the map when in the program. Then again might be my memory going bad on me.


The changes made to the main fuel/ignition tables and any parameter table always updates after any change to it .. even without clicking out of that table. All you had to do is click update changes or Ctrl+U.

The parameter items (like rev limit and launch control RPM) would only update AFTER you lost focus on that item to let the program know that you were done making a change to it.

So for example, if you change your rev limit from 7500 to 5000 and keep the cursor in that field without clicking off or hitting TAB/ENTER and click update changes it would not be updated.

This is because the cursor still has focus on that item and has not marked it as being changed. If you notice the same thing happens with AEM or any other software .. the change to something like that will only happen after you either hit ENTER or you TAB/CLICK away from it so the program knows you are done making the change.

If it didn't work like this, it would try to make the change with every key stroke you made .. so to change from 7200 to 7500 for example.

You would start by deleting your current value to make your change.
When you delete the value it would think you wanted 0 (because it is now blank) and would save that change.
Then you type 7 ( it would think you wanted it be 7)
Then 75 (would think 75) and so on.

So for that reason, it is only updated after you lose focus or click TAB/ENTER to tell the program you are done editing that value. Now, this ONLY APPLIES to parameter values .. all of the tables update after each change to the table cells.
2014-03-20 16:19:26
#46
Originally Posted by BenFenner
It should be feasible to make the tuning software have the option of changing it to suit the tuner's needs. Just an idea for the white board.


It is definitely feasible to do, but it adds a TON more code for handling everything from simple table viewing to map tracing/graphing/editing!
2014-03-20 18:54:37
#47
Originally Posted by JKTUNING
Originally Posted by BenFenner
It should be feasible to make the tuning software have the option of changing it to suit the tuner's needs. Just an idea for the white board.


It is definitely feasible to do, but it adds a TON more code for handling everything from simple table viewing to map tracing/graphing/editing!


Ben - turn your head to the side... lol
2014-03-21 09:10:01
#48
Originally Posted by JKTUNING
Originally Posted by BlueRB240
I used the nismotronic once before when it 1st came out and could have sworn changes weren't been made unless I saved the map when in the program. Then again might be my memory going bad on me.


The changes made to the main fuel/ignition tables and any parameter table always updates after any change to it .. even without clicking out of that table. All you had to do is click update changes or Ctrl+U.





Ok still kind of confused here, I'll use nistune as an example, in the fuel or ignition tables you make changes it's automatically updated to the ecu without hitting any update button. The only time you hit the update button would be when your done tuning so it writes all the info to the chip and prob clears out the cache at the same time?
2014-03-21 17:23:29
#49
Originally Posted by BlueRB240
Ok still kind of confused here, I'll use nistune as an example, in the fuel or ignition tables you make changes it's automatically updated to the ecu without hitting any update button. The only time you hit the update button would be when your done tuning so it writes all the info to the chip and prob clears out the cache at the same time?


I give you the option to go either full realtime mode .. which works without hitting any update buttons OR you can manually make the changes by hitting CTRL-U or Update Changes button.

The reason I give the option is because if you inadvertently make a change you didn't want it could cause some serious problems, possibly damage the engine. So by making the user physically have to push a button to make the change it adds 1 more step of certainty to your change.

But we do give you the option to go full realtime if you want to with the SA version.
2014-03-21 17:34:28
#50
Originally Posted by JKTUNING
Originally Posted by BlueRB240
Ok still kind of confused here, I'll use nistune as an example, in the fuel or ignition tables you make changes it's automatically updated to the ecu without hitting any update button. The only time you hit the update button would be when your done tuning so it writes all the info to the chip and prob clears out the cache at the same time?


I give you the option to go either full realtime mode .. which works without hitting any update buttons OR you can manually make the changes by hitting CTRL-U or Update Changes button.

The reason I give the option is because if you inadvertently make a change you didn't want it could cause some serious problems, possibly damage the engine. So by making the user physically have to push a button to make the change it adds 1 more step of certainty to your change.

But we do give you the option to go full realtime if you want to with the SA version.


Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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