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2015-11-15 22:24:50
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gmn 3bar setting in in adc
What do you guys for setting the min and max value to correspond to gauge value.

I tried -12.9 for min and 29.0 for max. I correspond for boost value in psi. However it doesn't correspond to vacuum. For example. gauge value of 15 in/hg report as -6.


Is it possible to correspond between gauge and gm 3 bar value in the vacuum range.?


I still have knock retard whenever I am boost even at 1psi even with new turbo.
This billet compressor is amazing. As soon as you floor the pedal you are in boost.


As soon it reach 1psi. boom 5 degree retard. So I reduced that area with 5 degree. It still give me knock retard.. Is knock really happen
at 1psi with 17degreee timing 11.5 afr.

Thanks
2015-11-15 22:49:43
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Vacuum does not translate to psi and is registered in mmHG. Do the calculation and check back.
2015-11-16 23:59:20
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Yes, it is kind of hard. 3bar sensor is 0 to 44psi absolute pressure. psi to in/hg is different scale. Why would they put 2 different scale in 1 gauge?

When I put -12.9 to 29 is kind of right for me since boost since is almost right , that's what I really interested in. This is going to be a bitch to tune in Map.

I really want to use map system since I pop hose on hwy several times .
2015-11-17 10:23:18
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Dude, you are way overthinking this one. It won't be hard to tune.

If you have a GM 3bar MAP sensor, use the default values for a GM.

I'm also assuming you have an analogue pod gauge, which you are trying to match the digital readout from the GM sensor? The +- accuracy of these two are never going to match up perfectly on both ends of the scale, so don't even bother.

I personally use the 'mbar' scale, and I find it the simplest thing ever to tune on turbo+MAP. Having multiple units in a load scale is just silly.

If anyone wants to try this scale, here are the basics. (3bar GM)
1bar = 1000mbar = atmospheric pressure. This is WOT on a NA car
<1000mbar, is vacuum. That means partial throttle and idle, that produces the lowest readings.
>1000mbar is boost. You can run 2 bars of boost (3bar absolute) with the GM sensor.

I would dare to say anyone who tries this will never go back to psi
Last edited by Dala on 2015-11-17 at 10-29-02.
2015-11-17 13:17:29
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Originally Posted by zurud
Yes, it is kind of hard. 3bar sensor is 0 to 44psi absolute pressure. psi to in/hg is different scale. Why would they put 2 different scale in 1 gauge?
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This is going to be a bitch to tune in Map.



Errrr, last I checked, about 90% of boost gauges have both units on the same gauge............why would this be any different

A 3 bar map sensor also registers vacuum.

As stated above, way overthinking this. I urge you to do the calculation I mentioned above and report back. You just spent days harping over this when you could have had this all figured out in a matter of minutes

P.S I had the same thought process as yourself and tried tirelessly to match up what the NEMU/GM 3 bar was registering and what my boost gauge was displaying until I realized the units were the culprit. At that point is when I realized the base settings John has set in the NEMU for the GM 3 bar is about 95-98% of the way there and only required me to adjust the scale by a few points.

Goodluck!
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