Thread: Roll Center Myths and Reality by Wm. C. Mitchell

Hmm... do tell!

+1, do tell.

Compare the design of the "shank" and pressure points to the whiteline and you will see

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read post #1.

@hammerin hank , have you ever compared the whiteline to the 2J unit??

Please compare the differences before asking such a question and accusing people of "..... messing around with another man's living here."

Now to note: The whiteline is not "fully" correct, but it is a step in the right direction

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@hammerin hank

.......And I am perfectly fine with being in the babbling category

Also, you are completely missing the point. The original question is buying it for a B13 (which I answered). This setup does not apply to a B13. So if you want your fellow forum member to waste his/her money on 2J kit unnecessarily and taking money out of a fellow forum member's pocket, sure.

Glad you are playing the fence

I will NOT comment on said device as I believe that would do exactly as you state.........Take money out of 2J's pocket. As mentioned, I have my opinion and that's that. If you would like to know it, PM me (which is the preferred medium I used for my discussion with black as to not "......take money out of people's pocket"). But since you are perfectly fine with jumping to conclusions and not assuming this is possible, so be it as well.

Again, if you would preferred to be informed, compare the two (or read the first post). Otherwise, you have not personally compared the two, held either in your hand, etc. (which I have)

Good day!

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One thing that I have realized is when people resort to using dicks and Melle Mel in somewhat of an "informative" debate, it usually means they are on the back foot

Ehh, it's cool.

Good luck to you Hank. I recommend you do your own research instead of following a product blindly.

Also, I was recently just informed, the LBJ has since been redesigned. I guess if it was designed "correctly" in the first place, and just blindly following 2J as @hammerin hank has, the issue(s) present in the previous revision would have been overlooked and we would kept using a product without question. To me, blind ignorance is more dangerous than anything else

Hank, continue doing what you do. As en Engineer (current Master's holder with a EIT and several certifications including 8+ yrs in the industry), if I followed your train of thought, there would be several scenarios in which I would have blindly followed a product to "not take money out of the pockets of an individual" just because they were copying (incorrectly mind you) a product without any proper engineering behind it. If i did this, I would have no job right now and possibly people's life on my hands. In essence, all they are doing is re-doing what Kojima and all (check other forum from 10+ years ago) have done.

Hank, this discussion is over. I already said you can PM me if you have any issue and clearly you decided not to. No sense in airing dirty laundry. it's quite unprofessional and a move someone of a lesser caliber would do
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Just want to make it CLEAR you received the message