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2013-08-20 19:46:49
#11
Originally Posted by Kariba
I am curious about the R&D that goes into these touring cars. These guys are making 300bhp from SR20 engines that most struggle to make 200bhp from. This technology has been around since JTCC days but under tight lock & key. I'm even more curious into the design for the reverse head SR20s that were used a lot of those same touring cars. This is what Nissan needs to be competitive within the 2L 4cylinder arena; we need a serious contender for those K-series.


Actually, the CMR team out of NZ took their SR20 farther than the BTCC teams did in terms of power. Granted it was for a land speed vs a road race application. So I'm sure they had a little more room to stretch it.

I'm guessing Reg Cook and company "borrowed" a lot of their high tech tricks from the BTCC engines. So it's not exactly locked up. For most of us, even if we did have a playbook right in front of us, it would be way too expensive for it to make sense in doing. As it is, a lot of the cutting edge guys in this community are doing silly things in terms of dollars/hp in the NA game. $3-4K for an intake? Ya, i'll pass.
Last edited by hammerin hank on 2013-08-21 at 15-57-46.
2013-08-21 01:05:41
#12
I wonder how much of the bump to 300 hp that massive CAI is helping with. At speed that thing is probably building a couple pounds of pressure at the runners...
2013-08-21 03:35:34
#13
Originally Posted by Kariba
I know the NA game is quite expensive @hammerin hank but it it seems to hottest and hypest (yes, my new word) form of the sport right now. The reverse-head setup is my biggest epiphany; every time I see one of those engines my brain goes into overdrive. The technology behind those engine are so amazing but the price tag is ridiculous; £10K for engine, harness and ECU....smh.


LOL! I hope you are being sarcastic as at a little under 20K USD, that is a bargain. The machine costs alone probably cost that much in real money . The ECU can easily run upwards of 5-8K brand new

And this setup is not a reverse head design (if that is what you are referring to)
2013-08-21 13:55:03
#14
No way he gets even $20k for that unless a random enthusiast who has a ton of cash to blow stumbles upon it. $30k buys you a 2011 C6. Not hating on the P11 but c'mon
2013-08-21 14:15:13
#15
2013-08-21 14:19:36
#16
Originally Posted by Kariba
I am curious about the R&D that goes into these touring cars. These guys are making 300bhp from SR20 engines that most struggle to make 200bhp from. This technology has been around since JTCC days but under tight lock & key. I'm even more curious into the design for the reverse head SR20s that were used a lot of those same touring cars. This is what Nissan needs to be competitive within the 2L 4cylinder arena; we need a serious contender for those K-series.


The technology isn't under lock and key. Build a high revving DE with huge cams, trick intake, ITBs, dry sump and standalone management and you'll be at least 250hp.
A guy in the UK did a N15 with a near enough BTCC spec DE. It was bench tested @ 274hp.

Originally Posted by Storm88000
No way he gets even $20k for that unless a random enthusiast who has a ton of cash to blow stumbles upon it. $30k buys you a 2011 C6. Not hating on the P11 but c'mon


Its a proper race car, not a wannabe street racing. Like has been said, the engine alone is 10K+. 20k imo is very reasonable.
2013-08-21 14:49:25
#17
Check this n15 rally car out:

8 of these were made. This one spent some of it's life in Sweeden and Ireland. Probably weighs less than a ton due to Nissan aiming for the minimum weight of 9600kg. 275bhp and recently dyno'd. The whole thing is uprated as you'd expect, with carbon fibre everywhere and some seriously uprated bits in the engine bay. Very functional flocked and carbon fibre dash. The gearbox looks like it was made for a tank. Fuel tank is a bag tank, kevlar and carbon bag so that an impact won't repture fuel everywhere. Beefed up rear beam and still FWD. Clearly no money spared for this project.

NISSAN ALMERA F2, ORIGINAL FACTORY WIDETRACK TARMAC SPEC KITCAR. FRESH 275BHP @8500RPM (ONLY 40 KMS)X-POWER ENGINES (PIERO).PECTEL. NEW TWIN PADDLE CLUTCH COMPLETE, HEWLAND 6 SPEED SEQUENTIAL FLAT SHIFT (ONLY 40 KMS) 376/6 POT AP`S, NEW DISCS, LATEST EVO 2 ROLLER BEARING PROFLEX. CARBON DASH, DOOR CARDS ETC.ORIGINAL FACTORY SILVER INTERIOR, FRESH OUTSIDE PAINT.FULLY LOG BOOKED RAC,MOT,TAXED.ALL ORIGINAL HOMOLOGATION PAPERWORK.

Nissan Almera Kit Car, Original factory car LHD, wide Tarmac spec in excellent condition.

R8 NME Built for Sanremo 1999 8 injection engine 275hp @ 8500 Hewland 6 speed sequential Flat shift fully rebuild including all shafts & output flanges 3 events perfect condition fully rebuilt plated diff 350nm only 2 events 150km 2 new driveshafts only 2 events 150km New Latest steering rack, New steering arms fitted with Latest acumen angle 2 events 150km, New latest EVO2 ROLLER BEARING PROFLEX fitted 2 events 150km 6 pot watercooled calipers 370mm front 2 pot rear New 6 point belts, Carbon Sparco Seats, FIA fuel fittings, inc sample Fitting, 22 x 18" rims, Full 4 Lamp and 2x Bumper Pods spares- 2x drive shafts, 2x front discs with bells,suspension, Steering arms, Steering Rack, and electrical components.

This car was believed to be the second last factory car built, Car is original Silver inside with fresh paintwork outside This car is ready to rally and in perfect condition professionally maintained regardless.


















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2013-08-21 15:05:59
#18
Those equivalent-to-current-day-S2000 cars were just as fast (if not faster) on tarmac than a Gr.P A or full works spec car if my memory serves me correctly

Those things are terrifyingly quick

That particular one has been for sale for quiet sometime no @rowdy-gti?? A coupe of folks in the islands have been swooping up these ex-works cars lately

Those AP brakes alone cost something like what, 5 or 8K new?? Me forgets...........
Last edited by Boostlee on 2013-08-21 at 15-09-26.
2013-08-21 15:54:20
#19
Originally Posted by Storm88000
No way he gets even $20k for that unless a random enthusiast who has a ton of cash to blow stumbles upon it. $30k buys you a 2011 C6. Not hating on the P11 but c'mon



Are you kiddin' me? If that was state side it wouldn't have lasted a day at that price. If that is indeed built to the same spec as a BTCC car, there's probably $150-$200K in that car. On track that would eat a $30K C6 for breakfast, lunch and dinner. You need a full on ALMS C6R to hang with that thing. That isn't a street car converted to a race car. As was mentioned that's a "proper race car". Meaning they built a race car to look like the street car. Big difference.

A little taste of what they can do:



Last edited by hammerin hank on 2013-08-21 at 16-45-34.
2013-08-21 18:57:34
#20
I agree with Hank. That car was built as a full on race car, not a car with a cage bolted in. Only issue I can think of, is where would you be able to race that here? I doubt NASA would let you run it in a TT class. With a good driver, it would hurt some feelings for sure.
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