Originally Posted by BurnetRhoades
Wow. Let's see...4x4 setup would be even heavier. I guess, maybe, they made further modifications and tuning to account for weight, like Mitsubishi and Subaru and Audi and...you get my point.
Really, that P11 wasn't the same as the daily driver P11? So you're saying your winning P10 is the same as a daily driver P10? Or, WTF apples to oranges point are you trying to make? Your comment is interesting, hand claps for you, but that has nothing to do with the facts I stated.
Driving teams likely had more that anything to do with their success. Their dramatic increase in success from previous years running P10s, which I'm not saying is a bad or even worse platform.
What I'm saying is the shit talking against P11s, particularly as it relates to people interested in making mods to it, making improvements to it from stock and/or against it as a viable platform are garbage and based on convenient, vacuum-sealed assumptions.
Wow. Let's see...4x4 setup would be even heavier. I guess, maybe, they made further modifications and tuning to account for weight, like Mitsubishi and Subaru and Audi and...you get my point.
Really, that P11 wasn't the same as the daily driver P11? So you're saying your winning P10 is the same as a daily driver P10? Or, WTF apples to oranges point are you trying to make? Your comment is interesting, hand claps for you, but that has nothing to do with the facts I stated.
Driving teams likely had more that anything to do with their success. Their dramatic increase in success from previous years running P10s, which I'm not saying is a bad or even worse platform.
What I'm saying is the shit talking against P11s, particularly as it relates to people interested in making mods to it, making improvements to it from stock and/or against it as a viable platform are garbage and based on convenient, vacuum-sealed assumptions.
I suggest you look up Nissan history and how they like to send crap to USA. JDM P11's are much lighter, and we know for fact that at least some don't have rear beams.
All USDM P11's came with a rear beam, it has horribly high roll center, it also has 1/8 to 1/4" toe in forcing the car to dog leg through any turns.
If you convert your P11 to be IRS, and loose 300-400lbs then USDM P11 will handle just as well as a P10. Now you can make the beam work too, you need to at the very least bend the beam to 0 toe, then do a panhard conversion.
Also if your think I'm biased towards the P10, look the cars I own/owned in my signature.
Last edited by Vadim
on 2012-10-25
at 01-23-53.