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2012-09-14 01:12:00
#31
Originally Posted by SR20GTi-R

On a tunable ECU base timing means nothing. All it is doing is syncing the Dizzy/Ecu with mechanical timing.

I can run a 20 degree base and it will be no different than a 10 degree base.


On our stock/bolted on cars we advance timing via mechanical adjustment, base is 15* and we move it up to say 19*, which moves the whole map to 4* advance.

On a tunable ECU we leave it at 15* because we have more accurate tune-ability via 16x16 cell map. But the same still applies for base timing, before I knew how to tune a timing map with my Calum RT, I increased the base to 17 and it was a nice difference (as in the concept stays the same as a stock setup with just an advance).

Alright so say at 18 psi on 10.3:1 setup with a smaller turbo (T28), your are down to 2* in your cells ( 2* advance to the base 15*, which means your actually running 17* in that cell), and your still knocking, you can't go into negative numbers on a timing map. Thus if you reduce the base to 11*, your 2* advance in the cell should translate to 13* advance in that cell, correct?
2012-09-14 01:59:51
#32
Originally Posted by Vadim
Originally Posted by SR20GTi-R

On a tunable ECU base timing means nothing. All it is doing is syncing the Dizzy/Ecu with mechanical timing.

I can run a 20 degree base and it will be no different than a 10 degree base.


On our stock/bolted on cars we advance timing via mechanical adjustment, base is 15* and we move it up to say 19*, which moves the whole map to 4* advance.

On a tunable ECU we leave it at 15* because we have more accurate tune-ability via 16x16 cell map. But the same still applies for base timing, before I knew how to tune a timing map with my Calum RT, I increased the base to 17 and it was a nice difference (as in the concept stays the same as a stock setup with just an advance).

Alright so say at 18 psi on 10.3:1 setup with a smaller turbo (T28), your are down to 2* in your cells ( 2* advance to the base 15*, which means your actually running 17* in that cell), and your still knocking, you can't go into negative numbers on a timing map. Thus if you reduce the base to 11*, your 2* advance in the cell should translate to 13* advance in that cell, correct?


I'm going to take screen shots and explain what I mean.

On your Calum realtime, if you highlight the timing cells where you idle, set them all to a given #, let's say 10*, with the timing light on your motor you will be able to sync the dizzy without affecting anywhere else in your map.

What you refer to as a "base" timing means absolutely nothing With any realtime, AEM, Haltec etc.
Last edited by SR20GTi-R on 2012-09-14 at 02-00-25.
2012-09-14 02:19:28
#33
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Last edited by B15NEOVVL on 2012-09-14 at 04-17-19.
2012-09-14 17:22:14
#34
Any decent machine shop should be able to notch a piston for squirters as well as drill/tap/install the squirters themselves. I had this done on my DE block with DET rods and 300ztt pistons...old skool!
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