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2012-08-17 17:38:16
#11
Ya i line honed it...but on the arp hardwar i built a ka about 4 years ago also with cometic & arp and ive gone thru 2 chassis and the motor still has same compression and power with no issue
Last edited by team sikniss on 2012-08-17 at 17-39-25.
2012-08-17 17:44:41
#12
Big difference, KA is a Cast Iron block vs Aluminum. Just like Evo guys like to use ARP studs as well, again Cast Iron Blocks wont have the same issues with threads pulling out, distortion and so on that aluminum blocks will have.

Again if I were you I would at least ditch the arp head studs and Cometic gasket.

Other than that you say you took care of the bottom end. Thats fine and will work fine. But not the head studs and gasket.

Its your build and up to you. You might be fine or you might have problems. Some have had luck with those parts others have horror stories. Why take a chance when you can get parts that nobody has horror stories about????
2012-08-17 17:47:14
#13
Do GTIR Main bolts look different from stock main bolts?
2012-08-17 17:49:30
#14
^^...yup..tuff choice its ganna set back the build it might be the way to go.
2012-08-17 17:51:25
#15
If u dont line hone it. it wont spin the crank will jam up.
2012-08-17 17:51:52
#16
yes Gtir bolts have different markings on them. They are made of a different/stronger material than the normal DE/DET bolts. Same size you just torque them slightly higher per the GTIR torque specs.
2012-08-17 17:56:04
#17
With the arp main u also have to grind the end of the Last stud cuzz upper pan will hit it..
2012-08-17 18:00:32
#18
Again because they are improper. Mazworx has a set of arp2000 material main studs that bottom in the holes and dont stick up as far and clear the pans without problems. Much stronger stud and a proper stud. Still require line honing of the mains but not as bad.

I prefer to just stick with GTIR main bolts. They are stout as hell and no line hone required. Good to 723whp so far and not even a sign of issues with them.
Last edited by ashtonsser on 2012-08-17 at 18-02-46.
2012-08-17 18:08:30
#19
Line hone is alwase the right thing to do anyway
2012-08-17 18:14:59
#20
Originally Posted by ashtonsser
The fact is if you would have done some research on here you would have found out that the ARP head studs suck balls.

Thats the problem with soo many "newbie" peoples builds is they go off super old information instead of doing some research on current and good parts.

The ARP studs are not proper studs, they do not bottom out in the bottom of the block like a proper stud should. There are many other options for studs besides the old ARP's. GE B16a studs, Mazworx ARP2000 studs, and several other brands but they are more expensive. The best bet is just to get the Mazworx Studs. Those ARP's are nothing but problems and stock head bolts would be better than those. They like to pull threads out of the block because again they do not sit properly, they distort the cylinder walls because the load is placed higher on the block. I could go on and on.

Second, I would also ditch the cometic headgasket. Another sub par part. Go with an OEM SR20VET metal gasket or Cosworth headgasket or the PE gasket from Mazworx. All much better options.

Third, I hope you know that if you use the main studs that your supposed to line hone the block. Again because ARP studs you have are again not proper and dont bottom out in the main bolt holes, they will distort the journals and youll probably run into issues with the crank not even wanting to turn when torqued down. Same goes for any main stud. If you dont want to get machine work done on the mains, I suggest contacting Greg V at Gspec performance and get some GTIR main bolts. Much stronger bolts and they are cheap and will hold anything you can throw at it. You can get the VET headgasket from him as well.


Originally Posted by unijabnx2000
GE studs weren't available last time I tried, so I got Mazworx and they are awesome


^I'm glad I got my GE head bolts from you(ashton) when I did. Nobody on eBay even had them at the time. Doesn't look like they are going to be making anymore.
Last edited by MR-4Door-SR20DET on 2012-08-17 at 18-15-24.
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