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2008-02-09 18:27:22
#101
Originally Posted by fro20
get the 3071r compressor wheel for anything under 500hp and especially in conjunction with the t2 hotside.

The t2 flanged gt3071r uses a 56.5major and 84 or 90 trim. The t3 flanged 3071r and 3076r use a 60mm major and 84trim. Those are garretts offerings anyway. I have not looked on atp's webstie to see what concoction they do with machining out t2 housings to fit the 60mm and what not.

Hmmm,

I know the GTiR uses a 79 trim hotside... does anyone know the large diameter of the turbine? I could go measure it, but I don't have a micrometer.

Would anyone see anything wrong with using the gtir 0.86 housing and getting it bored out to fit the bigger wheel, and just buying the turbo minus the housing. Has anyone ever done that before? Sorry if its a stupid question.

This is pretty interesting.

edit: In short, use the 3071 assembly and compressor housing w/ the 0.86 T28 housing..
2008-02-09 18:47:59
#102
^That might be an interesting combo.
2008-02-10 02:54:05
#103
Originally Posted by XxToKeSxX
Hmmm,

I know the GTiR uses a 79 trim hotside... does anyone know the large diameter of the turbine? I could go measure it, but I don't have a micrometer.

Would anyone see anything wrong with using the gtir 0.86 housing and getting it bored out to fit the bigger wheel, and just buying the turbo minus the housing. Has anyone ever done that before? Sorry if its a stupid question.

This is pretty interesting.

edit: In short, use the 3071 assembly and compressor housing w/ the 0.86 T28 housing..


forced performance mods turbine housings for dif wheels, but I do not know the extent of what they offer.
Garrett sells a t2 flanged internal gate hotside for the 84 and 90 trim 56.5mm major'd for the 3071r.

Oh, and I wish you could tell me the major of the gtir t-wheel, I have 3 trbos in my garage and am thinking of building a frankenstein, have all the specs less the gtir, and no Micrometer handy.

I guess I can go to the shop and mike it.
2008-02-10 02:57:12
#104
Originally Posted by fro20
forced performance mods turbine housings for dif wheels, but I do not know the extent of what they offer.
Garrett sells a t2 flanged internal gate hotside for the 84 and 90 trim 56.5mm major'd for the 3071r.

Oh, and I wish you could tell me the major of the gtir t-wheel, I have 3 trbos in my garage and am thinking of building a frankenstein, have all the specs less the gtir, and no Micrometer handy.

I guess I can go to the shop and mike it.

That sounds like the perfect upgrade for 2009/10...

As for the GTIR wheel, I'll measure it tonight, it will be rough, but I'll take the pics... I have the housing off getting ported anyway... Maybe I can get a string and find the circumference and we can calculate the radius with that. I'll post up in the morning...

...I might be getting my dranky drank on tonight
2008-02-10 04:34:33
#105
Originally Posted by gtir
this is very true.. i figured with cp pistons and stock rods id be fine.. i hear all the internal problems in the gtirs are the pistons... the rods are beefy so i just went ahead and got cp pistons and hopin i gtir tuned good and ill be alright.. i want a mid/low 11 sec car. i just bought a nasty manifold and am probly goin to do 35r.. go big or go home is what im always told. when i get my car perfect ill start building my spare block for big power
matt


sounds like the 30r could make those power goals that you are looking to meet
2008-02-10 07:57:19
#106
im thinkin about doin a 35r and runnin 30 pounds of boost on my first passs at the track,, it might blow up but f it. its only monety..................................... drunk post^^^ dammit 3076 sounds so good but idk!!!! i guess like miko said bigger is not always better. i bought curt dragons lovefab sidewinder so i figured what the hell..... idk. itll be a month or 2 before i order a turbo so i got time to think about it.
matt
2008-02-10 16:17:03
#107
GTIR T28 79 Trim Turbine Exducer/Inducer Calcs...
Originally Posted by Kleensleeper
^That might be an interesting combo.


Originally Posted by fro20
Oh, and I wish you could tell me the major of the gtir t-wheel, I have 3 trbos in my garage and am thinking of building a frankenstein, have all the specs less the gtir, and no Micrometer handy.

I guess I can go to the shop and mike it.


Originally Posted by XxToKeSxX
As for the GTIR wheel, I'll measure it tonight, it will be rough, but I'll take the pics... I have the housing off getting ported anyway... Maybe I can get a string and find the circumference and we can calculate the radius with that. I'll post up in the morning...

...I might be getting my dranky drank on tonight


Here we go... I dont know if the way i did it is the best... but there leaves a tiny room for error, but nontheless. This is for a GTIR T28 Turbine Wheel... since I couldn't find diameter specs anywhere...

I used a zip tie and a ruler to measure instead of the string... because the string didn't exactly make a circular patter around the turbine blade... I marked where the circumference stopped, and found the radius that way. This is what I found...

http://www.sr20forum.com/forced-induction-performance-parts/164299-gtir-t28-turbo-kit.html#post1609555
Originally Posted by andatron
Price includes shipping so its effectively free! Usually take around a week to get to ya. Yes i have these every now and then, but if you are after one at a later date it is better to commit to it and let me know in advance so i have time to source the parts. thanks

No the GTI-R t28 is not a ball bearing, however it is the largest of the factory t28's.

Specs Are:
Compressor: Inducer 47.1mm Exducer 60mm A/R .60
Turbine : Inducer 53mm Exducer 47mm Trim 79 A/R .86

cheers

But I went ahead and still posted my calculations to check it... it was a little off from what he posted, but I'd just assume what he posted since his numbers were probably from the factory or a remanufacturer or something.

Here's what I calculated...
[b]Circumference Calculated = 170.5(+/- 0.5mm)[/b]

Circumference = 2*Pi*r or Pi*d

D = 170.5mm/(3.14159265)

[COLOR="DarkRed"]D = 54.27mm = Turbine Inducer[/COLOR]



[b]T28 Turbine Trim = 79[/b]

Turbine Trim = [(Exducer^2)/(Inducer^2)]*100

0.79 = (Exducer^2)/(54.27^2)

(Exducer^2) = (2,945.23)*(0.79)

Exducer = SQRT[2326.73]

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Turbine Exducer = 48.24mm[/COLOR]


[b]Double Check Trim (Because sometimes I don't remember PEMDAS [/b]

Turbine Trim = [(48.24^2)/(54.27^2)]*100

Turbine Trim = 79.01.... yep


Thank God for Google Calculator!!!! Pictures are worth 1000 words... enjoy!

1. Measured my oh so ghetto fabulous way


2. Another Angle...


3. Marked w/ a Sharpie... which leaves for about a 0.5mm error... I marked it right in the middle of where the zip tie intersected.

2008-02-10 17:00:28
#108
lolz!
2008-04-20 00:36:15
#109
so on gt3071r .86ar is the rule of thumb? From what I've read no one has a .64ar.
2010-01-04 17:34:57
#110
just recently bought a 92 G20 any suggestions for low boost quick power?
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