Thread: GTIR Turbo Manifolds

cool , i'd like to eventually get my hands on the vet out of an xtrail to keep the car awd or even just a ve head for a gtir bottom end, theres a guy doing a head swap with a gtir over here at the mo.

the ve/vet engines seem to be quite rare over here, you cant move for gtir engines (so cheap now) i paid (£150) about $250-270 for the last one

these gtir manifolds are really hit or miss, same as the rest of the ebay manifold stuff, i know a few people that have had them crack aswell as some of the issues i mentioned earlier with warped flanges, round or oval ports. bolt holes not quite right, maybe they've sorted them out abit now

last year they had one listed for under $200 on their site.

I've seen the RWD manifold modded to work on a FWD, but the welds were re-TIG'd

Oh and i ment to say XSPOWER

Even so it does not fit properly because of the placement of the turbo flange being between the 3 and 4 cyliner.

Not worth it in my opinion.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/rmyc/IMG_0706.jpg

modded RWD mani, not worth it because the pipes are too thin. but on the new ones they now make they are using +3mm pipes

If the manifold is not designed to work with AC it is not worth it in my opinion.

I have seen a few RWD Cheap ass China turbo manifold setups that start to fall apart and I have no sympathy for those owners. I chose not to work on the cars with the cheap ass china manifolds and other parts because 11 times out of 10 they want something done on their car and are not willing to pay for what its worth.

Everyone wants cheap parts and buying cheap ass china crap will only kill the market for everyone else who makes good parts. Eventually all the GOOD manufacturers will be out of business because no one will be buying the top notch parts, so everyone will be buying parts from china. Eventually once they have the market cornered, a cheap XS power Turbo manifold will soon be $450 and will be no better than a $65 one.

People wonder why the economy has fallen apart. It does have a lot to do with shipping work overseas. I have had one opportunity to get camshafts made for the VE motor but i let it pass because all the casting, grinding and such would be done in china. That means there is no way to PERSONALLY OVER SEE the quality and workmanship.

As far as the GT2860R/RS turbo comparison goes, It depends on what exact turbos you are talking about.

the normal "GT28R" is "basically" the same turbo that comes standard on a JDm S14 SR20DET motor. It is a GT2560R.

GT2560R ( GT28R) 466541-3 part number. 53.0mm 62 trim turbine wheel, 60mm 60 trim compressor wheel.

There is also a GT2860R P/N 707160-7. 53.8mm 62 trim turbine, 60mm 55 trim comp wheel. These 2 turbo's look very very similar in person but again, are not. the GT2560R can actually make more HP than this GT2860R. This turbo uses the Inconel turbine wheel and turbine housing with the divider wall.


The GT2860R 707160-5 is a 53.8mm 76 trim turbine with a 60mm 62 trim turbine. This is basically a GT2860RS Other than the different compressor housing. This turbo is a bolt on upgrade for the RB26DETT's. I believe they use the STD comp housing so that it is a "bolt on" upgrade and you do not need other pipes or couplers. This turbo uses the Inconel turbine wheel and turbine housing with the divider wall.

The 739548-9 is a GT2860R with a 53.8mm 76 trim turbine and 60mm 62 trim comp wheel. this is the same Turbine housing, center section as a GT2860RS except running the different compressor cover.

The 739548-1 is a GT2860RS, 53.8mm 76 trim turbine, 60mm 62 trim comp wheel running the T04B compressor housing. There is also a 739548-5 turbo which is the same turbo with the .64A/R turbine housing "out of the box"

-Ted

Its not about buying the manifold slippy slap. Its about getting one and haveing a man like Charles Dundon make it but properly.

I am a big fan of the stock cast GTIR and VE turbo manifold and weld and port them up to make them flow right,

im still pissed i sold my jgy manifold. one day when i learn to weld ill just make my own

Now do those (jgy) manifolds flow any better then a gti-r? Basically is it worth it to swap them out when I get the 2871r?

how do the vet and gtir stock manifolds match up?

I have a jgy manifold and would LOVE to go external w/g, but not sure about the fitment on the vet manifold in case its a step up.

Im thinking mainly about downtime on getting the manifold cut and welded so I can just swap em and go from there.