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2013-05-15 17:16:44
#1
Thumbs down nsusammyeb
please see post 112 and on: http://www.sr20-forum.com/members-rides/50349-my-b13-restoration-motor-build-thread-3.html

I will be posting full text and Facebook messages showing correct requirements and parts to be ordered.

moving this here instead of my build thread.
2013-05-15 17:45:57
#2
Ohh geez bring the popcorn!
2013-05-15 17:56:02
#3
Chris I hope you get things worked out. You know I am only a phone call, text message or email away.
2013-05-15 18:03:35
#4
@nsusammyeb

So he knows this has moved on him.
2013-05-15 18:40:17
#5
Damn this sucks please keep it civil guys.
2013-05-15 21:47:10
#6
March 15
1:43pm
Performance+Plus

Sorry Chris, what car/motor is this on? Sr20?
2:13pm
Mcholder Chris

Fwd sr20ve/b13/6262

I want the turbo past the dizzy so if I go bigger I can still use the manifold

Example of placement
2:19pm
Mcholder Chris
4:34pm
Performance+Plus

Sidewinder style? Not a problem. What's your name on the forums? I can't remember if I quoted a price to you yet. Sorry Chris it's hard to keep track between the forums and here.
4:37pm
Mcholder Chris

B13luvr

$800
5:01pm
Performance+Plus

Oh ok...I know who you are now $800 sounds about right. What are you doing for down pipe and dump? PayPal address is [email]nsusammy@hotmail.com[/email]
5:30pm
Mcholder Chris

Shit I need that too
5:32pm
Mcholder Chris
March 16
6:49pm
Performance+Plus

Tial 38mm and t4 turbine??
7:13pm
Mcholder Chris

T3 undivided

38mm

Please leave enough room to change the flange to be changed
7:25pm
Performance+Plus

Cool, i'll get the parts ordered up. Please be patient with me though I've got two complete set ups to do in front of yours.
7:57pm
Mcholder Chris

ETA?
March 17
8:39am
Performance+Plus

3 wks hopefully
9:30am
Mcholder Chris

Sounds good. What's the total? My hotside is a ptb 2.75 vband
March 17
4:44pm
Performance+Plus

downpipe and dump also I'm assuming?
5:07pm
Mcholder Chris

Yea
5:08pm
Performance+Plus

Screamer pipe or recirc?
5:24pm
Mcholder Chris

Scream

You can text me at 510-326-6714 as well. Thx
March 18
1:11pm
Mcholder Chris

yo
3:54pm
Performance+Plus

What's up?
3:56pm
Mcholder Chris

You know where to get 3/8-16 studs for my log mani? I'm running this log until mine is done
4:48pm
Performance+Plus

Fastenal is where I get all my stuff...
5:21pm
Mcholder Chris

Cool. Thx
5:23pm
Mcholder Chris

Also note. I installed a alluminum rad double core
March 19
5:31pm
Mcholder Chris

Please use a sr20ve head flange.
March 20
11:52am
Performance+Plus

Always
11:53am
Mcholder Chris

How's the beast doing?
11:54am
Performance+Plus

Twisted motor mounts...lmao
11:57am
Mcholder Chris

Holy moly

Fab a solid one
March 20
3:48pm
Performance+Plus

Haha they are solid I'll try to get some pics on the forum
3:48pm
Mcholder Chris

Holy shit
March 21
10:30am
Mcholder Chris

Any measurements i need to take? The aluminum rad is closed in More than before so there is less space.
March 21
6:45pm
Performance+Plus

Pics of your bay would be great
6:45pm
Mcholder Chris

Ok
6:59pm all pictures
Mcholder Chris
7:00pm
Mcholder Chris
7:00pm
Mcholder Chris
7:00pm
Mcholder Chris
7:01pm
Mcholder Chris
March 22
5:08am
Performance+Plus

Battery is going in the trunk right?
5:44am
Mcholder Chris

Yup
March 22
4:31pm
Performance+Plus

Started on your manifold today. Waiting on parts for everyone else's stuff.
4:41pm
Mcholder Chris

Woohoo! Pics make me happy
4:42pm
Performance+Plus

On the page. Going 4-1 1.5"-3"
4:44pm
Mcholder Chris

On your page?
4:51pm
Mcholder Chris

looks a bit low tho.
5:05pm

Mcholder Chris

Not worried. Do ya thang man. I know you know what your doing. Good work so far!
6:23pm
Performance+Plus

it's going to have a 3 inch "L" up to the flange. You've got 4-1.5" tubes feeding 1-3" tube. Volume of 4-1.5" tubes per inch equals the same as 3" tubing per inch. Should spool that 6262 very well.
6:34pm
Mcholder Chris

Wow indeed. Any idea approximately where the turbo will be pLaced? I'm trying To get an idea for ic piping
March 23

3:29pm
Performance+Plus

Tial f38 right, not the mvs38?
3:39pm
Mcholder Chris

Yea tial
3:40pm
Performance+Plus

yes, but not the tial mvs right? Just the 2 bolt flange, not a v band right?
3:56pm
Mcholder Chris

Yup

Mcholder Chris
March 26
3:37pm
Mcholder Chris

Can you please tell me where you plan on placing the turbo and downpipe? Thanks.
5:01pm
Performance+Plus

turbo is going to be just past the dizzy. Downpipe is going to either go straight down in front of the trans, and then across to the factory location, or across the top and down in front of runners 1/2.
5:21pm
Mcholder Chris

My car is a bit low so between 1/2 may be ideal.

Nice! Ok I was a bit worried. I have a 3 inch exhaust so it would be nice to have 3 inch DP.

Do you have a b13 to mock up ic piping? I need a full kit
5:29pm
Performance+Plus

yea, I've already ordered up 3" tubing for the dp. How many o2 bungs do you want? I don't have a b13 for mock up but might be able to get one, kinda depends on what size intercooler you're running as well.
5:31pm
Mcholder Chris

Just one same location as the pic.

A medium sized one

I can get measurements
March 28
1:30pm
Mcholder Chris

How much we looking at with shipping?
3:40pm
Performance+Plus

$1600 shipped
3:42pm
Mcholder Chris

Ouch

How much for the down pipe and scream pipe!?

$800?

I changed my mind on the dp and dump. I can fab one up with mild steel.
3:54pm
Performance+Plus

Down pipe will run 500, had a trick down pipe/dump combo planned. Have the invoice at the shop I can send you, but yes $800 for down pipe and dump. Down pipe is super long and curvy. I've ordered the materials already as well. Wasn't cheap.
3:59pm
Performance+Plus

$1540+$60shipping
4:00pm
Mcholder Chris

Yea dude that's extreme

How much where the materials? I can pay for them and just send it with the mani.

I asked before you ordered parts what the price was.

(Quoted mar 17th 4:44pm) Sounds good. What's the total? My hotside is a ptb 2.75 vband
4:09pm
Performance+Plus

What's ur phone number I can send you the invoice
4:15pm
Mcholder Chris

All good I trust you bro

510-326-6714
4:22pm
Mcholder Chris

I apologize for the trouble. Might want to quote prices for customers first.
4:33pm
Mcholder Chris

is the piping returnable?
March 29
1:47pm
Performance+Plus

Wish you had a t4, life would be soo much easier

3"sch 10 isn't the easiest stuff to oval out.
2:45pm
Mcholder Chris

Lol

Sorry man.

Running into issues?
March 29
8:30pm
Performance+Plus

no biggie, it'll work out just fine. If you ever switched to a t4, you'll be able to cut the flange and weld one on fairly easy. The 3" piping fits the t4 perfectly.
9:19pm
Mcholder Chris

Nice!
April 4
12:49pm
Mcholder Chris

does my wastegate have a big enough pipe to fit a 44mm flange when I go that route?
3:43pm
Performance+Plus

Should be really simple to cut the short pipe off and do what you want with it. It's in an easy spot to get to.
3:48pm
Mcholder Chris

nice

Could you stil get that b13? I want to make a new IC setup

for around 400
April 5
9:31am
Performance+Plus

What's up with the waste gate decision?
10:10am
Mcholder Chris

the 46mm pte

go ahead and order it

its on eBay for 320 shipped

has flanges and everything



not censored at all. all my bitching included.

texts coming soon. as you can see I asked and asked to make sure the trouble areas are taken care of.
2013-05-15 22:47:36
#7
Originally Posted by nsusammyeb
I donate to the forums, I go out of my way to help people all the time. There is obviously something wrong with this whole situation if I'm not willing to help you out and it's clearly not me. So get your shit fixed else where, I will no longer deal with you.



You guys think this is fair?
2013-05-15 23:05:27
#8
fixed
Last edited by nsusammyeb on 2013-05-17 at 02-17-19.
2013-05-15 23:46:22
#9
Originally Posted by nsusammyeb
All the pictures are in the "what did you weld today" section. I would like to add that none of this transaction was done on the forums and shouldn't have even been brought to attention on the forums.

Anyways, here we go again...

I mocked the manifold up, had it ready to weld. He thought the turbo was too close to the dizzy.

So, I changed it...no charge.

I mocked it up again, had it ready to weld. He decided that a 38mm wasn't enough for a 600hp car.

So, I changed it...no charge. I even ordered the gate and had it delivered to the shop to save him on shipping and time.

I mocked it up again, posted pictures of it mocked up on a spare block for him to clarify once again, and was given the go-ahead. Thanks to @lynch420 I had pretty good measurements of a b13 with a dual core radiator. 8 1/2" from the valve cover to the radiator. This is what I followed on Josh's manifold and on this one. I was aware of some minor changes to the lower radiator hose...but it's a sidewinder. I mean who makes 600hp without making a few changes in the bay?

As far as the v band on the downpipe, we all know that pte turbos are weird. I've done lots of pte's that were supposed to be 3" vband and were only 2.5". I even contacted our rep at Pure Turbos to ask what size it was for sure and he laughed at me. I told Chris that the only ones that I had done were 2.5" and that had to be what it was. He took my word for it and away we went. All he had to do was take another measurement and tell me that I was wrong.

The downpipe should have been cut in half and should have a 45* bend at the back of it but I was told not to worry about it that he could weld it up to his existing exhaust himself along with the o2 bung. Now it's surfacing that he doesn't have the skills to do it. I mentioned cutting the downpipe in half after talking with axion (dougfab) about fitment issues and offered to cut the downpipe in half and put flanges on it (for free) to Chris to save him on the hefty shipping bill of $180. I was told "No, I want it in one piece."

Now, all this time I was receiving payments from Chris. A deposit, which is normal, but after that it was just money here and there whenever he had it, which really wasn't a big deal. I had the set up done a week or so before he had the funds to ship it. I went back to the place to ship it and was told that it would be $240. So, I went to another place and was told shipping would be $213 to ship and $27 for packing materials. So, I shipped it. I collected the $180 from Chris and ate the rest of it on shipping. At this point I've eaten the shipping, about 6 hours worth of changes, some tubing, some piping, a high dollar 3" sch10 weld el and my belly is a little full from all this eating. So, forgive me if I'm not eager to spend money to ship something back to you and dump a bunch more time into something that was clearly documented throughout the entire fabrication process. There are pics on here, pics on the facebook page, and pics via text message but somehow it's all my fault. Keep in mind that I'm fabricating all of this on a ghost car that I haven't even seen pictures of. I got a few pics of "Ok, I want it like this" but that was it. You're going to have some minor issues and set backs...get over it. It's a "one off" piece, I don't have jigs for anything, they're all custom.

For those of you that know me and have talked to me whether it be on the forums or at the convention know that I'm a stand up guy. I go out of my way to help out. I donate to the forums, I lend hands, I help people with problems all the time. If I'm not willing to help you out anymore Chris then it's to the point where it's your problem not mine. I will let you know that you get a lot farther with people by being nice and that talking to me about the problems should have been the first step instead of posting pics of everything that was wrong and making me look like shit.

So, with all due respect. Suck a dick.

Mods: You do w/e you have to do.





I don't care what you think would work. I asked you will I have issues as I was concerned and you said nothing about having one issue, PERIOD


1) I told you it was a 2.75 vband for the fourth time!


"The downpipe should have been cut in half and should have a 45* bend at the back of it but I was told not to worry about it that he could weld it up to his existing exhaust himself along with the o2 bung. Now it's surfacing that he doesn't have the skills to do it. I mentioned cutting the downpipe in half after talking with axion (dougfab) about fitment issues and offered to cut the downpipe in half and put flanges on it (for free) to Chris to save him on the hefty shipping bill of $180. I was told "No, I want it in one piece".


2) please show me proof that I told you I would take care of the o2 bung? now we are lying?

3) You only mentioned that the downpipe should be cut because I would save on shipping. NOT THAT I COULD NOT INSTALL IT!.
I asked and asked what the new material would cost and you NEVER said one word!
Please attach a picture of the so said statement, I have.

4)most Professionals have a Jig, this is not my fault, as you are the pro at making manifolds.

5)I hope this brings people to see what they will have to deal with if they decide to have you do work for them without a Jig or a Mock car.


Obviously he is not willing to do anything else and I'm out of $1700 plus.

your are on the forum, you advertise on here, people deserve to know how you treat customers.



Yes its my fault for being a dumb ass trusting you. I was played to thinking everything would work Like you said.
2013-05-15 23:58:08
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Mods: if needed to take this dispute elsewhere I can contact PayPal.
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