Originally Posted by
chapnutz1 shawn, i dont totally understand your post
1) I agreed 100% with Mirrortints. Everything he stated, agreed.
2) Packing materials are cheap and plentiful. NO excuse not to use them in appropriate quantities to make sure the package arrives safely.
I shipped some fucking window-trim to Wnright. It was about 15-bucks worth of trim from a scrapyard. Ask him how well packed that shit was. The shipping company was NOT fucking up that trim (hard to find, no matter how cheap at the junkyard), and it was going to arrive in perfect shape. I cut wood reinforcement slats to 2" longer than the trim, wrapped the trim in paper, then taped the trim to the wood, and then stuffed it into cardboard shipping tubes with a ton of packing material.
Originally Posted by
tampai was selling the head for $500 plus shipping. he offered $450 shipped. it cost me $100 to ship a head
YOU agred to the price "shipped".
That means you "eat" the cost of PROPER SHIPPING. It is INCLUDED in the price.
Originally Posted by
tampawhen i mentioned that the shipping was going to be killer ($94) the buyer didn't budge and didn't ask for insurance.
YOU are the SELLER. The SELLER is responsible for proper packaging and insurance.
Originally Posted by
tampai'm sorry, but you get what you pay for, and you paid nothing for shipping.
YOU agreed to a "shipped price", that means YOU are responsible for proper, correct, safe shipping and packaging. NO matter what it costs, it is included in the agreed-upon price.
Originally Posted by
tampai have already taken a loss
Absolutely irrelevant.
Originally Posted by
tampaif i get banned for this, i will live with the consequences
See, that is an issue. You don't give a shit about this community. If I had an issue with a reputable member, I would FIX THIS ISSUE, no matter the cost, to maintain my reputation on this forum. I am INVESTED in this community. NO FUCKING WAY I would sell my reputation as "a guy you can do business with on a handshake", over $400 to $500 bucks. No way no how.
Originally Posted by
tampai'm not going to get into a back-and-forth on this.
I wouldn't either if I was clearly in the wrong and too cheap to fix my mistake.
Originally Posted by
tampai told you that that is how i received it, undamaged.
tell me why i should invest additional money in additional packaging and insuring?
It does NOT matter how you recieved it.
What matters is that YOU agreed to a "shipped price."
Therefore YOU agreed to "invest" part of YOUR profit from the sale into proper shipping. Period.
Originally Posted by
tampaas mentioned, you know the risk of shipping. i do not. i have never read a tutorial on packing heads. i simply packed it up as received. i guess i was lucky, but i also insured it just in case.
If you do not know the "risk of shipping" then YOU have NO BUSINESS selling anything to anyone.
Originally Posted by
tampait was not my responsibility since i was the one paying for it. it was left up to me--my choice. that's what the buyer decided when he chose not to cover shipping. had he paid for shipping like i requested i would have factored in the insurance like i normally do because shit does happen.
You are both delusional and in denial.
A "shipped price" does NOT mean "scrimp and cheap-out" on the shipping.
Originally Posted by
tampaso when i went to ship i worked with what you gave me. if you were concerned about the shipping then you should have asked at the very least. this is my first time shipping a head.
Chapnutz did not "give you" anything to ship the head. YOU AGREED TO A SHIPPED PRICE.
Originally Posted by
tampayou asked for it for $480 shipped and so i shipped it with what you gave me. actually, that's technically -$20 going toward the shipping
NO it is NOT "20-dollars going towards shipping."
Shipped price....
Originally Posted by
Strattongranted he did a terrible job packaging it. im sure its worse then he would have forseen.
but he did say he'd help cover some of the damages, lets as a community learn from our past mistakes.
lets give this man a chance to due right and show he is willing to work things out in posative manner that will help chapnutz repair the head.
i know all to well getting lowballed. at some point your just like fuck it, wich is not the attitude to have by anymeans. thats why i give my best price and rarely budge from there, if you dont want it for my price, thats fine ill sit on it forever or better yet ill throw it in a dumpster. still ABSOLUTELY no exscuse for piss poor shipping.
i think this community should give him a chance first before black balling him and jumping down his neck. he said hes gonna do right by this big mistake, lets see if he does.
stratton
Stratton, you have some very good points as a voice of reason.
Shawn B