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2013-04-29 14:38:34
#41
Originally Posted by Boostlee
Originally Posted by hammerin
I ordered a set of Raybestos ST-47's for this year. I might have trouble modulating these with street tires, since they're an all out race pad. I thought about going with the Blues, but they're so hard on rotors and wheel finish....



LOL! If this is what you are worried about, you are going in the wrong direction as far as pad choice is concerned............

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"For those seeking pad upgrade that will give them more friction, and ability to deeply outbrake the "usual suspects," the super-agressive Raybestos ST41 and ST47 compounds dominate. Raybestos racing pads are available for applications ranging from pro-level sportscar, to vintage touring car and low-buck road racer."

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It's almost as if there is an echo over here and no one read any of my posts apart from the OP.............




Rotor wear and wheel finish are a secondary concern for me. I want a really high friction pad that can handle the heat. Any of the recommendations presented in this thread, aside from Blues, aren't going to cut it for me and my driving style. Been there done that. Since I've never heard of anyone running RT-47's in the AD22 caliper, I figured I'd give them a whirl.

Info I used in making my selection: http://porterfield-brakes.com/images/raycomp2008_11_06_03_19_04.pdf
Last edited by hammerin hank on 2013-04-29 at 14-41-12.
2013-04-29 14:56:57
#42
@hammerin hank I think you are missing the point (and a very good one at that)

Race pads are a big NO NO for any sort of street/daily driving as you will NEVER get the heat into them before they begin to operate (read: no brakes until this temp)!

DO a little more research again. Cheaper pads have shitty compounds at best and are not equipped to handle the heat hence they degrade drastically, have terrible pad life, and horrendous initial bite, and eat up rotors from the chunks of pads being dislodged into the rotor (this is not to you Hammering, but to EVERYONE)

Either way, put a race pad on your (street car while driving on the street) car and please let me know when you drive on the street and I will make sure I warn everyone I know in a 100 mile radius of you to stay away (including myself).............IJS (and again, this is not only directed to Hammerin, but to the masses)

Now if this is strictly for race conditions, disregard my statement. But I will forewarn you; if you do not have the tire (read grip) to make the brakes work, do not spend your money on race pads, simple! You will just be wasting dollars. If hawk blues are not working for you on a street tire, you need to rethink things. Hawk Blues have held up well on my 140+mph brake to 40mph repeated tries whip (T3 turbo track sentra). If you are eating up pads on a regular ol' DE, something else is up...........

And if you are worried about wheel finish, use wax on your wheels and wash them after every event and you will be fine. If you are cheap, use Crisco.
Last edited by Boostlee on 2013-04-29 at 14-59-13.
2013-04-29 15:04:10
#43
Boostlee, cool your jets. Hank never said anything about driving on the street with race pads. This is for his race car. He knows what he's doing.
2013-04-29 15:13:53
#44
Ben, hence why I said it applies to everyone reading

Must have missed my edit
2013-04-29 15:24:25
#45
Originally Posted by BenFenner
Boostlee, cool your jets. Hank never said anything about driving on the street with race pads. This is for his race car. He knows what he's doing.


I prefer the term "DE car" since we won't be racing...

And ya, I don't plan on street driving these. If they suck, I'm clunkin' Ben over the head and stealing the "Shoe". irate:
2013-04-29 19:06:26
#46
@Boostlee
have you ever used the Carbotech AX6 pads?
If so,how do they compare to ...say porterfield R4S,and Hawk HP+??

Also,nobody has mentioned axxis in this thread...why?
What about axxis ultimates?

How about cheapass rotor(new)?
I have seen guys say they get ate up anyway,so save a buck there.
Is there a chance of poor chines quality steel failing or something?
2013-04-29 19:18:16
#47
@eggman

I ran the cheapo rotors as
1) The car weighs 2600 or so lbs
2) In order for me to run the rotors I like (that won't crack like 99% of the cross drilled rotors for our cars) it was not going to be a cheap ordeal
3) They held up well
4) I consider them disposable items
5) My brother and several other people I know use them on race cars with much better tires and much more harsh brake compounds!

I have ran BOTH Porterfield and Hawk HP+ pads (no carbotechs. Too damn expensive for what they are when I was looking). Nod goes to the HP+ currently. However, for my current setup, I have also ran the HP Blues for a limited time and liked them

However, I have since ditched the "stock" setup for a 11" willwood brake package with Polymatrix compound pads made by willwood (cheaper than most, but squeal and dust like no other!)
2013-04-29 19:37:09
#48
@Boostlee,I was thinking cheap rotors for the same"disposable" reason.
I figure when them or the pads wear out,but new rotors again...no turning them.
2013-04-29 19:39:34
#49
Not a fan of turning rotors.........I end up spending more time and gas just sending the rotors out than buying brand spanking new shiny ones!
2013-04-29 20:37:45
#50
NX brakes up front with Carbotech XP8 and stock rears with factory pads. I've never felt like I needed more, and they don't fade. You can drive these on the street, but I would only do this to and from the track, not for everyday use.
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