I'd agree, got mine when Matt was still there. Given mine's a toy and comes out 3-4 times a month, they'll be there a long time. BUT most of us bagged Carbotech when they screwed Matt and tossed him on the street. Fortunately he's landed and has what appear to be a good set of pads for us at bhp brakes. I don't think he's found his way over here yet; email him at [email]mnicholson@bhpbrakes.com[/email]. In the meantime, for street, the oem pads are really quite good.